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CTW Rear Admiral
Joined: 10 Sep 2004 Posts: 691
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 5:23 am Post subject: |
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274 or 74% can't tell. CTW |
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I B Squidly Vice Admiral
Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 879 Location: Cactus Patch
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 5:35 am Post subject: |
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Lot of Jar heads and sympathysers in and out of DC this weekend so my vision may be skewed. Where ever I went I saw "unfir" well displayed but no Brinkley or Globe auto's. Bush pins, Ts and Sweats were picked clean and busily restocked while Kerry's sat. Saw it in DC, Atlanta, Cincinatti and Phoenix.
Maybe I'm in the echo chamber but there seems to be a swell against Kerry, the McAuliffs, Carvills, Begalas, Edwards, Teresas, and the whole litigious sophistry, and negativism of the Michaeel Moore, Eminem afront to dignity and sense. |
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Rurik PO3
Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 251 Location: Daschle-cleansed Free South Dakota
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 5:36 am Post subject: |
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Yes, I'm nervous. Always have been, always will be. Its my chenistry. But TS, you learn to deal with it. At worst , the fight will go on. And if we lose, I will not give up! I was in guerrilla reisistance from October 1970 to January 1981, and again from January 1993 till January 2001. If I have to I will do it again! The winner ultimately is the guy who refuses to give up after he's been beaten. No quarter - no surrender.
Hang tough my beloved true ones. The brave Russian dissidents never believed they could outlast the Soviet Union - but they tired or weakened and many of them succeeded in outlasting the evil empire.
Resistanace is not futile. I will not be assimilated. And Bleep 'em if they can't take a joke.  _________________ Hating John Kerry continuously since 1971.
Essayons!
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lrb111 Captain
Joined: 28 Jul 2004 Posts: 508
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 5:37 am Post subject: |
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Roon wrote: |
Just one reminder, the polls were so wrong in 2002 that if you root around some in the Dark Side, you will see a lot of info as to how they thought the Republicans cheated because the results were so different than the polls. They can't understand that the Polls were the ones wrong!
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That's the crux and the key to understanding the dem operation. Just like a magic trick, it's not the trick that counts but seeling the trick beforehand, ie the setup.
The dem setup is the false polls, or high expectations. Those high polls lead one to falsley beleive that there is going to be large voter turnout in their favor.
Then the machanics of the trick as In 2000 when they screamed that the Pubs stole it, was because from their viewpoint that was the only way the pubs could have overcome the dem tricks. Like "finding" two ballot boxes at the last minute in New Mexico with 900 vtes in it. Pushing Gore to a 300 vote win there.
Also overcoming the votes bought with cigarettes, booze, etc in other states.
There will be a lot of the young vociferous ABB crowd that figure out tomorrow that they really can't vote for kerry either. They will stay away. _________________ said Democratic Chairman Terry McAuliffe. "It is inexcusable to mock service and sacrifice."
well, when even the DNC can see it,,,,, then kerry is toast. |
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WilliamShipley Seaman Recruit
Joined: 28 Aug 2004 Posts: 37
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 5:41 am Post subject: |
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I was just wondering if the pollsters here in California took into account the fact that the Vietnamese and Asian vote might not break the same way in this election as previously! |
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MyAslan Seaman Recruit
Joined: 30 Oct 2004 Posts: 7 Location: Gilbert, AZ
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Islander Ensign
Joined: 15 Oct 2004 Posts: 54 Location: Sacramento, California
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 5:48 am Post subject: |
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I've been watching both rallies; marketably Bush' rally's are always larger and filled with energy. Kerry's is more about complaining and not as enthusiastic. ANYBODY, can say "I can do better." But without a record, it's just empty rhetoric. I'm surprised to see just how many students support Bush and who are well informed. (thanks also to Ann Coulter's "raw" support for Bush) 2% lead for Bush in HAwaii is a big deal. I think we will gather around the President just as we did after 9/11 and he will take the election in a landslide. The liberals have crippled our intelligence and cut our military and Americans know it. I think there will be some stark surprises that the polls had no clue. _________________ 1st Cavalry (airmobile)
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Aristotle The Hun PO1
Joined: 18 Aug 2004 Posts: 488 Location: Naples FL
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 6:00 am Post subject: |
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Rurik wrote: | Yes, I'm nervous. Always have been, always will be. Its my chenistry. But TS, you learn to deal with it. At worst , the fight will go on. And if we lose, I will not give up! I was in guerrilla reisistance from October 1970 to January 1981, and again from January 1993 till January 2001. If I have to I will do it again! The winner ultimately is the guy who refuses to give up after he's been beaten. No quarter - no surrender.
Hang tough my beloved true ones. The brave Russian dissidents never believed they could outlast the Soviet Union - but they tired or weakened and many of them succeeded in outlasting the evil empire.
Resistanace is not futile. I will not be assimilated. And Bleep 'em if they can't take a joke.  |
“Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan “press on” has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.”
-Calvin Coolidge
Salute!
Sam _________________ Deportè Monsieur Kerrè |
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DoctorDebug Seaman Recruit
Joined: 30 Oct 2004 Posts: 13
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 6:10 am Post subject: |
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I for one, here in the heart of Florida, am feeling cautiously optimistic.
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Truthagent007 Seaman Recruit
Joined: 01 Nov 2004 Posts: 9
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 7:09 am Post subject: |
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At one of the rallies today,
Theresa said: "Tomorrow, I hope you vote often."
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dcornutt PO3
Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 267 Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 7:09 am Post subject: |
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Yea, well nobody has figured in the number of votes from those millions of new "rock the vote" get outs..who have long rap sheets with felony convictions for drugs, violence, robbery, weapons violations, currently on probation etc that are gonna get tossed out either. Or, they aren't going to want to show up when they find out you have to bring "ID" because they have warrants out for their arrest. IN my building here in Brooklyn, that's umm...most of the kids in the building. Walking out the front of my building is nothing but color coordinated youngsters..flashing gang signs.
They were all excited about being reg'd to vote and going to vote for the first time...till they found out you have to show ID. Vote or die baby. Like Puff Daddy ain't got a wrap sheet as long as my leg.
Fortunately for PUff, he's got $$$ lawyers to keep him from getting convicted in all the shootings, etc. These young people he inspires..don't. Most of them are on probation, and have multiple felony convictions.
Anyway, there are "also" lots of religious minded, conservative college students too...who are going to "rock the vote" tomorrow. I would guess, Bush supporting conservative young people rep a lot bigger base than some of the pollsters are counting on. I heard Zogby started using a 9 to 1 Kerry figure for young voters in the last week. That's what happened to his poll numbers.
But, none the less, the race is very, very close. It's going to be a wild ride. |
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MJB LCDR
Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 425
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 7:46 am Post subject: |
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I B Squidly wrote: | Set up my local polling station this eve'. The 'inspector' was wearing a Kerry pin so I slapped on my "Kerry Lied, Good men died" (thanks Kristin) and they all gasped. "You can't wear that!" Neither can you wear that, says I and that Kerry stickered car of your had best be out of sight too!
Don't let these bast**ds get you down. Get out there and vote! |
You tell 'em Squidly! Don't mess with Team Swiftie! _________________ MJB
USAF '85-'92 |
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MJB LCDR
Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 425
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 7:50 am Post subject: |
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[quote="Aristotle The Hun
“Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan “press on” has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.”
-Calvin Coolidge
Salute!
Sam[/quote]
Oh man - my mom had that posted on the 'fridge when I was growing up. When she used to get really frustrated with our lollygagging around before the bus arrived, she used to recite that to us (in a very loud, irritated-to-angry tone)! Old Cal was a distant relative to her, so I think she took it personally I'll have to look for it next time I'm back home....
But you know, both she and Calvin were right.... _________________ MJB
USAF '85-'92 |
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IamHG Ensign
Joined: 21 Aug 2004 Posts: 69
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 8:27 am Post subject: |
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Here is my prediction:
A clear win in Fla, outside the margin of litigation.
Bush hold Fla and Ohio
Bush takes Iowa, Wisconson, NewMexico
Kerry holds Mich, Penn, Minnisota
Kerry takes NewHamshire
Bush wins with 291
Kerry loses with 241
Kerry will admit defeat by midnight. _________________ <insert pithy signature here> |
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Theresa Alwood Rear Admiral
Joined: 05 Jun 2004 Posts: 631 Location: Florida
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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I doubt we will see Kerry admit defeat....I just do not see that happening. I see Kerry as being one who will never, ever admit he was wrong. He never actually addressed any of the swiftvet truths - only called them liars. But I do think Bush will win and I think the pollsters and the news media's only reason for reporting this as a close race was to keep the American people interested.
8-10 military support Bush
9-10 terrorist support Kerry
Support our troops and Vote Bush.
Protect America...VOTE BUSH. _________________ Born to raise a little hell! |
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