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[Scott]

[ASPB]

Clifford May does a great job of highlighting the ideological affinities and business connections between Michael Moore and Hezbollah, one of the world's most feared terrorist groups. Hezbollah is actively promoting Moore's film Fahrenheit 9/11 in Lebanon, and Moore's Middle Eastern representative finds the connection a natural one:

Having the support of such an entity in Lebanon is quite significant for that market and not at all controversial. I think it's quite natural.

Well, it is natural. Moore agrees with the terrorists' worldview and, I think it's fair to say, shares their principal objective, the destruction of the United States. Of the following quotations, two are by Michael Moore, and one is by Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah. Guess which is which:

The U.S. government started the war with Iraq in order to make it easy for U.S. corporations to do business in other countries. They intend to use cheap labor in those countries, which will make Americans rich.

This is the war of a despotic, arrogant, and cruel country against the nations of the world.

[T]he U.S. "is known for bringing sadness and misery to places around the globe. …It's all part of the same ball of wax, right? The oil companies, Israel, Halliburton."

Give up? The first and third are by filmmaker Moore, the second is by mass murderer Nasrallah. You can tell the difference because the Hezbollah terrorist isn't as crude as Moore.

By the way, I like the way Moore slips Israel into the second quote. No wonder his Middle Eastern representative, Gianluca Chacra, says that "[Moore] is considered an Arab supporter."

I've long had a dim view of the Democratic Party, but I never thought I'd see the day when that party would hail as its intellectual leader an anti-American propogandist whose views are endorsed by Hezbollah.
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[Scott]

Re: Michael Moore (Democratic [i.e. Moonbat] Spokeman):

From a very long post by blogger http://denbeste.nu/:

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[Tony]

Hist Student...free country and all - so don't take this the wrong way - but do you really want some of your hard earned money going to the likes of Michael Moore? For me - I don't really care what that movie is all about and if I ever watch that trash it'll be when someone loans me the DVD which will 'accidently' get scratched while I am watching it. To me seeing this movie would be the moral equivalent of wasting my time to study Karl Marx in order to debate the merits of communism with a fool who thinks it's not a bad idea 'in theory' (whatever that means).
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[jdmcg]

There is a way to see it without spending a dime.
http://mh101.jdmcg.net/index.htm#Downloads
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[ASPB]

An Iraqi View of F911

Fahrenheit 9/11-4/09

Iraq - one year after the war; Iraq through a complete 180 degrees of change; one of the countries that was always known as a challenge for what it was, as a threat - not only to humanity but to the whole world.

Do you want to compare 9/11 to 4/09?

9/11 - the attacks on the civilization of freedom, the symbol of the free world.

4/09 - the fall of the dictatorial regime of evil, the symbol of the slave world.

The big difference between the two events? No one felt these two events, and lived through them as much as the Americans and the Iraqis. No one felt the changes more than those two peoples.

And here we see who claims these events and uses them as a purpose and a reason to make his own celebrity, and win trophies and awards, as if he invents something for humanity, or finds a cure for one of the diseases.

MICHAEL MOORE, the director of "Fahrenheit 911".

This movie - I won't even call it a movie - it's like a "cut and paste" movie - I wonder what he is thinking when he shows his "cut and paste" movie: "cut and paste" for explosions and fighting, and terrorists covering their faces; statements by GWB playing golf (I didn't know playing golf in America was a crime. I know it was in Iraq before 9/4. It was only for presidents.) I wonder if it took MICHAEL MOORE hard work to produce this "cut and paste".

I wonder if you've lived under dictators, extremists, terrorist rule, or if you are just living under the gift of being free - free to say anything, free to do anything, free to make a film from "cut and paste" to win trophies and awards and $26 million. I just wanna remind you where you are, because there are brave men fighting for where you are. I wonder if you live safer and safer for all your life - safer for hope, safer for justice - and if there's fear in your life. I wonder why we always try to think of ourselves, why we evaluate hard work and achievements, and show them like dark spots.

Saying that your troops will never be back home - this is not true. Saying that going to war wasn't the right thing to do.

What are the solutions you offered? Okay, we've been attacked by the extremists. We must solve our problems first before we attack them? We have too much freedom? We should make less freedom because” Bin Laden” doesn't accept that freedom goes toward the east? Freedom is evil - evil because you don't follow anyone, you follow your mind?

We should never have attacked Iraq because Saddam was not yet a threat. He didn't develop weapons of mass destruction. He only had some chemical and biological weapons and some missiles.

That you can speak to soldiers about not going back to Iraq because of what they see there is a reason for people to be proud and believe that what is happening is for the good of all. This is the freedom to do what you see is right for you. If this soldier was in any place in the Middle East, he would be executed because he said he didn't like what his government did.

The attacks on 911 were only the beginning of evil. Fighting this evil is the mission of all good people. It is a challenge.

Mr. MICHAEL MOORE, what will be your reaction after several years, when you see a free country and a modern and civil one? That we should say thank you to the brave men who did that, or see your "cut and paste" movie, or sue you for being an imposter?

Your troops will be home as soon as they have done their job. This is a promise from Iraqis.

I have talked with many soldiers. They were happy to work here. Some of them even say, "Iraq is our home. We work to rebuild it."

Know what I will go to do and I now this need more than one post, but I see it, like one of the must important issues to be discuss ,and I will use some parts from” Dave Kopel” I took some parts and discuss it .

“Moore has been criticized for using the reaction shots as a clever way to avoid showing the planes hitting the buildings, and some of the victims falling to their deaths. Even if this is true, the segment still effectively evokes the horror that every decent human being felt on September 11.”
This is on of the reasons for I call it "cut and paste" movie.

Three days after September 11, Moore demanded that no military action be taken against Afghanistan:

"Declare war?" War against whom? One guy in the desert whom we can never seem to find? Are our leaders telling us that the most powerful country on earth cannot dispose of one sick evil f---wad of a guy?

Because if that is what you are telling us, then we are truly screwed. If you are unable to take out this lone ZZ Top wannabe, what on earth would you do for us if we were attacked by a nation of millions? For Chrissakes, call the Israelis and have them do that thing they do when they want to get their man! We pay them enough billions each year, I am SURE they would be happy to accommodate your request....

Mr .Moor if you think that the hall issue is related to one and only one person, you are rung and completely rung its not only ” Bin Laden” ,it’s a faith on there believers ,on there way ,is only right way ,nothing matter in life every thing is behind life , “Al Qaeda “is only the organization who organize the work ,and any leader for each group, had to take the decision he see as the right one, any where he is ,and he got only to ask for the support ,from the organization to do his job ,they don’t believe in any religion or thought ,accept there religion and thoughts .

Fahrenheit asserts that Saddam’s Iraq was a nation that “had never attacked the United States. A nation that had never threatened to attack the United States. A nation that had never murdered a single American citizen.”

yes “Saddam Iraq” as you say because really before 4/09 Iraq was Saddam and Saddam was Iraq only ,is he a threat only when he kill an American ? Weird way to give accuses to defend saddam ,you didn’t see what was written on the walls , what we was learning us in schools ,universities or daily live “fight America ,America been beaten ,fight Israel ,Israel will be beaten “ “America is responsible for your misery” and much more ,Mr.moor if you been rise up on these principals ,how? You can be shower when I will Attack you.

Moore’s pro-Saddam allegation that Saddam “never threatened to attack the United States” is true in the narrow sense that Saddam never gave a speech in which he threatened to, for example, send the Iraqi navy and army to conduct an amphibious invasion of Florida. But although Saddam never threatened the territorial integrity of America, he repeatedly threatened Americans.

Dear Mr. Moor you lived the propaganda of “Saddam” and his fiat believes, we lived the realty of Saddam, we was dealing with him every minute every day ,weak sleep ,he was just every where ,you didn’t live through all this ,you don’t believe me if I told you that people with all the pain they got from Saddam cant tell know believe that, he is goon ,they cant speak, they are afraid that he will come back ,they learn to beat ,and humiliated, and never speak ,Saddam will be more than happy if he could attack America ,if he cot the ability to do so ,I wish you was here in Iraq ,when you speak to your president and say to him sham on you ,I wish you could say that to Saddam ,and see how he will respond to you, any way if you are so worried about "Saddam " he is now in the hand of Iraqi justices you can afford him a lower ,and I assure you, that saddam will be well traded, and he will be given all his rights , and that he never did to any Iraqi he killed and executed .

Iraq and al Qaeda

I agree ,that Saddam didn’t have any sympathy towards extremes and religionist ,but if they only Worked against its rule ,and on his land ,and if they supported him, and fight with his fear case then they will be alleys, and we should support them.

Moore shows scenes of Baghdad before the invasion and in his weltanschauung, it’s a place filled with nothing but happy, smiling, giggly, overjoyed Baghdadis. No pain and suffering there. No rape, murder, gassing, imprisoning, silencing of the citizens in these scenes.

Excuse me is this my Baghdad you talk about ,that Baghdad I live in for more than 20 year ,with all what we lived through ,how could we be happy and smiling ,and we got people bored to death ,under ground ,live ,because ,I cant give you a cause ,maybe you can ,you seems to know more than us ,how? we can be Happy ,and I got friends executed ,I got bothers in jail ,how? We can be happy, and we got nothing to eat, how? we can be happy ,and we got nothing to live for, Iraq was ruled by a regime that had forced a sixth of its population into fearful exile, maybe you have the answers?

The Iraqis who have risen up against the occupation are not “insurgents” or “terrorists” or “The Enemy.” They are the REVOLUTION, the Minutemen, and their numbers will grow -- and they will win.

Once a gian seems like Mr.moor simplies and complicate like “cut and paste “ he was doing all the way saying that those who he called them REVOLUTION ,are only enemy of Iraq—the coalition of Saddam loyalists, al Qaeda operatives, and terrorists controlled by Iran or Syria—who are united in their desire to murder Iraqis, and to destroy any possibility of democracy in Iraq, never and ever people been REVOLUTION by cutting innocents peoples head ,or attack police stations ,or bomb ordenary people ,or hit power stations ,or oil pipes ,is those REVOLUTION ,if you didn’t notice those REVOLUTION are only ,in the places which they where the most usefull people from Saddam rejieam ,and they simply don’t accept the change for bettert life to all not to some,and if they are popular and supported by people here ,I wonder why they cover their facess ? no one in Iraq doubt the support from Iran and Syria to those murdders .

According to Screen Daily, Moore’s film will open in mid-July on ten screens in Lebanon and two screens in Syria.

This indeed will be the grateast movie for such as people ,living under the rule of fanticy ,and Hezbollah is doing this in Lebanon ,this is fine and great , I wander if they can show” the independents day” movie ,there is a theme in the movie ,fighting together agents evil.

we will never allow any one to force any think on us ,no ,no more.
I hope Mr.Moor could have a little time to look over how we see things through his “cut and paste” movie .

Just want to say Iraq is ours ,and we never let him be goon as it was before, and any Iraqi will meet you some day he will meet you as a friend not as an enemy.

http://www.roadofanation.com/blog/
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[Marine4life]

I saw ABC News last night to catch up on the lies about Bush and low and behold F911 is rated 4th and only grossed $11 mil. Not even enough to pay the actors and falling fast. That is according to the liberal ABC so it really might be worse than reported. I love it, no documentary in history has dropped out this fast. He is setting records alright!!!! It is not a documentary, it is a lie fest. Semper Fi.
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[Indianbaboon]

Francis, do us all a favor and STOP CALLING IT A DOCUMENTARY. That is an insult to anyone who's ever made a documentary. you clearly have no respect for the talent and hard work that goes into making a true film of that nature.

[ASPB]

An article on the Massive Moonbat that's worth reading.

[Navy_Navy_Navy]

Here's a very long read - but it's worth it - 56 documented deceits in F911.

"Documentary," my butt.... it's clearly a FRAUD-umentary - it documents only the twisted thinking of a hate-filled ideologue.

http://www.davekopel.com/Terror/Fiftysix-Deceits-in-Fahrenheit-911.htm

Give it a read, if you've got time.

And notice that since this fraudumentary has been perpetrated on the public, some polls show that support for the President and for the war in Iraq have gone UP. Didn't hurt that the Senate Intelligence Committee came out and gave themselves a failing grade in intel oversight. Or that their findings were that NO ONE IN THIS ADMINISTRATION pressured the CIA to "find something."

Democrats should be falling all over themselves, apologizing for the accusations they've been heaping on this President, but they're not. And that isn't playing too well out here in the real America.
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Apologizing would show class, of which they have none.
Today's Dems are such a far cry from what they used to be that I think they should change their name.
My Dad was a WWII vet, a union member, Deacon of our church and a Democrat. But like I said, the people who are calling themselves Democrats today are not even a shadow of what a Democrat was in those days.

[Scott]

Zell Miller, D. GA, is retiring from the Senate. He will be speaking at the GOP convention in NY.

But perhaps his greatest contribution to politics in this country is his recent book A National Party No More. I read it virtually non-stop. Sen. Miller pulls no punches in decrying the departure of the Democratic Party from its historical principles.

I suspect that's why he's speaking at the RNC convention, and not the DNC convention.

I recommend the book. I'd recommend the book to John Kerry, but I doubt he'd read it.
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