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dmroyer Seaman Recruit
Joined: 08 Jul 2004 Posts: 12 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 7:51 pm Post subject: Kerry's actions in 1970's |
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I don't care that Kerry protested the war in Viet Nam, that's his right. What makes me angry, still to this day, is that he turned the American public against the service men and women who were in harms way and doing their duty. If he can turn on his fellow comrades in arms what will he do with those he has no relationship with or connection to. Remember when we returned home after Kerry started his actions, not pleasant. |
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War Dog Captain
Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 517 Location: Below Birmingham Alabama
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Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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Kerry has screwed the men and women in the military for over 33 years, and if elected, he will continue to do the same!
War Woof! _________________ "When people are in trouble, they call the cops.
When cops need help, they call the K-9 unit." |
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Tony Lt.Jg.
Joined: 01 Jul 2004 Posts: 119 Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not so sure I agree on Kerry's protesting (I agree with everything else you said). I was only a child at the time - but John Kerry's form of protest bothers me a lot. I wore the very same officer's uniform as John Kerry (I look better in it, of course, but I digress..). As a commissioned officer, I served at the pleasure of the President and still do to this day, despite not having worn a uniform in twelve years. When I wore that uniform I was held to a higher standard and learned that rank not only had its privileges, but also it's responsibilities. The oath I took when I was commissioned is one I took for life.
Does this mean I don't feel I can protest against a military action? Of course not - in fact - I wrote many letters to my Senator, Congressmen and our former President in the mid 90s to express my strong displeasure with the way we were putting our troops in harms way in places like Somalia. I wrote these letters as a private citizen. Had I pinned my medals to my chest and put on my garrison cap and made a public protest that I am a Naval Officer in the reserves who is against this military action - I would have crossed a line and been acting inappropriately. Don't know if I would have been breaking any laws, but I do know I would be violating the standards set for all military officers in how they are expected to behave in public.
Kerry - just wasn't some silly kid following the popular culture of the day. He was a US Naval Officer and he disgraced us all by his conduct. To call it youthful indiscretion is dubious. He abused the trust placed in him as a commissioned officer and I'd have more respect for him if he'd have just gone off to Oxford or something, in which case he could have protested all he wanted and maybe even smoked (but not inhaled) some high quality weed. _________________
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dmroyer Seaman Recruit
Joined: 08 Jul 2004 Posts: 12 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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I was also an officer, but in the Army and I can not or would not disagree with anything that you have said. But my point is that he manipulated the public to dislike and mistrust the very people who were protecting his right to free expression. He had been in the fight and I am not sure what he saw or did, but he turned on us (American service men and women) in a very big and public way and he focused the insults and degradation on the troops, not the war. To me this is not a man to be trusted or one to be followed. This is a man without honor or integrity that will say and do what ever it takes to get what he wants. This is not a man that I can respect, nor a person who could be “The Commander in Chief”.
As a note, Kerry’s slogan “Let America Be America Again” is the title of a poem by Langston Hughes, a communist. Many of his programs and policies are very socialistic in nature, what a coincidence, nationalized health care, redistribution of wealth for the common good, etc.
The efforts of all of us should be grassroots that is directed, specific, factual and shared with anyone and everyone that will listen. We need a common voice and message that can make a difference in this election. |
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coldwarvet Admiral
Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Posts: 1125 Location: Minnetonka, MN
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2004 1:13 pm Post subject: Perhaps we should make these documents a sticky. |
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http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/index.php?topic=KerryONeill
http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/index.php?topic=Testimony
Make sure that every one you know who is know proudly wearing a US military uniform or ever has reads these transcripts.
I just can not stop thinking about the poor veterans or active duty members who vote Kerry into the commander and chief position only to find out about the true Kerry record after the fact. I wish the media would get on this story but I do not trust that they will.
Perhaps we should make these documents a sticky. _________________ Defender of the honor of those in harms way keeping us out of harms way.
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garb1015 Seaman Apprentice
Joined: 31 May 2004 Posts: 89 Location: Southern California
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 7:11 am Post subject: |
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Kerry was an officer with three Purple Hearts, a Bronze Star and a Silver Star. These facts made his testimony so much more believable than some PFC of Spec 4 with a bad attitude because they had to go to Nam. The American people and even Congressmen who were against the war ate up everything he said mainly because he was a decorated officer.
More recently when asked about his testimony he said those were the words of an angry 27 year old kid.
When I was in Viet Nam I knew some 19 and 20 year old MEN but I didn't know any kids.
When Jane Fonda was on the Barbara Walters special she tried to use that "I was young and caught up in the movement" excuse. |
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Tony Lt.Jg.
Joined: 01 Jul 2004 Posts: 119 Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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When I was 27 I was standing TAO watches in the Persian Gulf aboard a cruiser with the keys to launch SM2 surface to air missiles hanging around my neck and a whole lot of responsibility to take care of my 350 shipmates. Surely a 27 year old commanding a swift boat in Viet Nam would have even more responsibility. That's why this youthful indiscretion excuse is such a farce....no other profession places so much responsibility in the hands of the young and for the most part the young rise to the occasion.
Maybe young Lt. Kerry just wasn't up to the task.... _________________
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