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olympian2004 · Last edited by olympian2004 on Fri Dec 03, 2004 11:54 am; edited 1 time in total

On the Gunny Bob Newman show and the Donna Star show here in Denver on KOA 850am tonight they have been talking about Denver mayor Hickenlooper's decision to ban the words 'Merry Christmas' from the traditional Parade of Lights downtown parade as well as any 'Christmas' float.

Still looking for an on-line web article about this topic.
Dates - Friday, December 3, 2004 at 8 p.m. Saturday, December 4, 2004 at 6 p.m.

Location - Downtown Denver, starting in front of Civic Center Park and the City & County Building on Bannock Street at 14th Avenue.

From the web site:
http://www.denverparadeoflights.com/

Once again this year, the parade is proud to present an International Procession to celebrate the cultural and ethnic diversity of the region. Groups in the International Procession include Belly Dance Concepts, Colorado Mestizo Dancers, Denver Taiko Drummers, Mudra Dance Studio, Shaolin Hung Mei Kung Fu, T.E.V. Edelweiss Schuhplattlers, and Two Spirit Society of Denver.

In addition to the amazing floats, balloons and bands, the 9NEWS Parade of Lights features countless other performers who each add a special touch to the evening. This year, featured performers will include Artistic Fusion Dance, Belles Performance Team, Centre of Dance, Colorado Clowns, Colorado School of Dance, Kit Andree Dance & Performing Arts Company, Peak Academy of Dance, Action Dance Express, and Denver Figure Skating Club.

Organization responsible for encouraging the ban:

Downtown Denver Partnership

http://www.downtowndenver.com/

303.534.6161 - voice mail

303.534.2803 - fax

Major sponsor and televising the event on Fri. Dec. 3rd -
http://www.9news.com/

Other sponsors: Storage Tek, Ford, Starbucks, Xcel Energy, Wells Fargo

Gunny Bob suggested that everyone show up with a 'Merry Christmas' sign and sing all the traditional Christmas carols during the parade.
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MSeeger · Seaman Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 174 Location: Katy, TX

I sure hope they do. This is stupid. Muslim countries don't make any bones about their culture being better than ours, and don't make any bones about not allowing evangelism in our country.

Yet, we, a free Christian nation, are supposed to not bend over backwards not to offend these diverse groups, but pretend that Christmas is not a religious holiday? Give me a break!

I wonder if they would allow Chanukah symbols and such; after all, the Jews celebrate a miracle for eight days in December. We only celebrate for one.

Maria
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tony54 · Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 6:08 pm Post subject:

Macy's of New York banned Merry Christmas from their store also.
Macy's has made Billions on Christmas over the years.
All their ads and banners will say "Happy Holidays".
No mention of God, no Baby Jesus, no Mary or Joseph.

If the ACLU has their way, soon they will build a Coliseum and take all us Catholics, Christians, Protestants, and Baptists, and feed us to the lions.
Not the Buhdas and Muslims though!

HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF AGAIN?

scotty61 · LCDR Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 419 Location: Glyndon MN

Makes it hard to believe that this country was founded by people seeking religous freedom.
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GM Strong · Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 2:18 am Post subject:

Stevie · Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:38 am Post subject:

I won't be shopping at Macy's or Target (no Salvation Army ringers) and I'll be running around saying 'Merry Christmas' - 'Happy Birthday Jesus'
and 'God bless eveyone' everywhere -

I may even stop by my old work place - a city government bldg just so I can say 'Merry Christmas' and 'God bless everyone' in a PUBLIC BUILDING !

Why do this idiots even continue to have Chiristmas parades then????
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nccjones · Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 8:41 am Post subject:

I found this article while doing a search for "Merry Christmas banned from stores". Not sure who wrote it, but I liked what he wrote.

Be Politically Incorrect this Christmas

Although we live in the Bible belt, we are sure to see a lot of Political Correctness as Christmas approaches. From the shopping malls to department stores, to radio, print and TV ads, we will soon hear the phrase "Happy Holidays," "Season's Greetings," "Winter Breaks" and other Politically Correct phrases. As most Christians know, Christmas has for years been so commercialized that the average person doesn't know it is suppose to be the celebration of the birth of Christ. And making matters worse, many of today's businesses and shopping malls are removing the "Christ" from Christmas by greeting their customers with something other than a "Merry Christmas."
How would you feel if people were celebrating YOUR birthday but were afraid to mention your name? Well, that's exactly what's happening. We are celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ, but are not suppose to use his name. Because some atheist, socialist, Muslim, Hindu or some other non-Christian might get offended. Never mind the fact that this nation was founded on Christian principles or that nearly 90 percent of Americans identify as either Christian or from a Christian background. And that according to our very own phone book, Christian churches outnumber all others better than 200 to 1. I don't know about you, but it offends me when some clerk greets me with a "Winter Holiday," "Winter Break" or any other generic words. I want to hear a big "Merry Christmas."
A few years ago, you may have read that some school districts in Georgia instructed their teachers not to refer to "Christmas break" as "Christmas break" anymore. It sounded too Christian and therefore not Politically Correct. It was to be called "Winter Break." Then there was the city council of Little Rock, Arkansas that voted to change the name of their Christmas parade--to the Politically Correct title "Holiday parade." And here in Kentucky a few years ago, school bus drivers in Fayette County were warned not to say "Merry Christmas" to any of the children. Presumably, they would say, "Happy holidays," "Merry solstice," "Hail to winter" or something of the sort, which would be Politically Correct.
Have you heard what Jim Johnson, the city manager of Eugene, Oregon did? Johnson really had a problem with the word "Christmas," he issued a ban on Christmas trees from all public places. That's right, he banned Christmas trees! In his memo to all city employees, Johnson said that while it could be contended that the Christmas tree is a "holiday" or "seasonal" decoration it is just as clearly a decoration associated with the Christian Religion. " So in his Political Correctness, he outlawed Christmas trees to create diversity and community harmony. I suspect, there may have been 4-5 percent of the community that agreed with Johnson's featherbrained actions, but I have a strong feeling that about 95 percent would like to send Mr. Johnson to somewhere like Afghanistan.
Most city officials, Department heads and other Politically Correct agents are much more subtle than Mr. Johnson. For example, stores like Macy's, J.C. Penny's, Wal-Mart and others just play down the word "Christmas" and amplify the word "Holiday," J.C. Penney's web-site, mentions "Holidays at Home," "Holiday Decorating" and "Holiday Accents," but little can be found about "Christmas." Wal-Mart, which is for the most part pro-family friendly, has also fallen prey to Political Correctness. According to their web-site, on the "Holidays Fun Facts" page, which was posted two years ago, includes 10 references to "holiday" or "holiday season," and just one mention of "Christmas." Also listed were "Wal-Mart greeters will say 'Happy Holidays' nearly half a billion times during the month of December." And it's not just department stores that are afraid of the word "Christmas." Fast-food chains, such as McDonald's, Burger King, Wendy's and others have joined the Politically Correct crowd to greet their customers with anything other than "Merry Christmas."
Now, there is one more thing that "gets my goat" at Christmas time. That's using "X-mas" instead of "Christmas." It seems that some people will go to any length to avoid using the simple word "Christmas." I noticed the Mt. Sterling Advocate's recent article, "X-mas events begin Sunday at the Park." Why not just use the word "Christmas" there was plenty of room on the paper? The "X" makes me and plenty others think some Politically Correct Social Engineer is deliberately crossing out "Christ" from "Christmas." Yes, I know, "X" is an abbreviation for the Greek word "Xristos" which means "Christ," and in some places, especially in Europe, it has been used for years by some writers. But my reasoning is: if the word "Christmas" doesn't offend you, use it. With so many people in our culture today having no idea what the true meaning of Christmas is anyway, using the word "X-mas" just adds to their ignorance.
This Christmas, I would like to ask everybody who is not ashamed of Christ to be Politically Incorrect, say, "Merry Christmas" as much as you can, as often as you can and to as many as you can. Doing this is sort of like the early Christians using the fish symbol in a hostile culture in order to distinguish themselves. As Mark Twain, once said, "Tell the truth, it will amaze your friends and confound your enemies." "Merry Christmas."

nccjones · Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 8:49 am Post subject:

OH....I also found this site. The Committee to save Merry Christmas. At least someone is doing something about it Smile

http://savemerrychristmas.org/

dcornutt · PO3 Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 267 Location: Brooklyn, NY

We wish you a happy holidays,
We wish you a happy holidays
we WISH you a happy holidays and a happy new year.

I'mmmmmm
Dreaming of a Whiiiiiteeee...Holidays

Just doesn't have the same ring to it.

dcornutt · PO3 Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 267 Location: Brooklyn, NY

Ooops...I've made a terrible mistake:

Immmm

Dreaming of a "non descript racial".... holidays......

olympian2004 · Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 11:54 am Post subject:

Denver Mayor Hickenlooper changes mind on Merry Christmas sign!

He admitted to making a mistake on the air.
Freepers, talk radio hosts, Michelle Malkin, etc. rule!

One down... now have to focus on the Parade of Lights sponsored by the Channel 9 KUSA NBC affiliate, here in Denver. Plenty of email possibilities here http://9news.com/newsteam/.

And focus on these guys http://www.downtowndenver.com/, the Denver Downtown Partnership. (http://www.denverparadeoflights.com/)

The Parade folks are still not allowing anything to do with Merry Christmas in the parade, though they are allowing some holy native American gay and lesbians and other similar groups.

There will be an on-line story to reference soon I'm sure.
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Daniel J. Hutchison · Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 1:26 pm Post subject: Christmas Shoping

While you are Christmas shoping and see any store which does not use "Merry Christmas" in the displays be sure to tell the manager that you were Christmas shoping and noticed that their store was not selling any Christmas items this year so you would have to shop at some other store for your Christmas gifts.

ocsparky101 · Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 2:59 pm Post subject:

It is really simple. When you go shopping for Christmas just do not support anyestablishment that does not acknowledge the Christmas Holiday. I know that I would perfer recieving the gift from my loved ones the respect of my beliefs. The wrapped package is secondary to me.

TN3

While I am not a big fan of Arnold's, because I am what people would consider "ultra right wing conservative", I was glad to hear that when California's Christmas tree was lit, he said as long as he is in California, the word "Christmas" will stay in their Christmas holidays.

Stevie · Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 7:58 pm Post subject:

yes, I think all Christians should stop shopping at stores that do not say "merry Christmas" and notify them that you are not shopping there and why!
shop at your local Christians bookstore ! every year I find the most wonderful things there! Support them instead.
I sent the Denver Mayor an email congratulating him on coming to his senses (he got so many emails / phone calls from the people) and letting him know that I have taken (for this year) Denver off my hit list of cities to email people and churches to stop shopping at local retail stores - hit 'em were it hurts - their sales - that hurts the city's sales tax revenue also. Trade stuff with friends, make home made items, bake something, give certificates for an 'action' (help, housework, babysitting etc) or even for a later date activity - movies, spa, lunch, dinner etc.
So many other things to do than the regular commercial route. We do to much of that anyway - have as long as I can remember!
Have a church bazaar - lots of crafty people out there just looking for a way to market their wares!
If these PC people want to take CHRIST out of Christmas, then we can take PROFIT out of their POCKETS !
That parade in Denver (or was it Oregon?) sounds like it is discriminating against Christians!!!! Maybe the churches should file a law suit against the parade people ?????
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Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage
morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should
be arrested, exiled or hanged.