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shawa
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Me#1You#10
Powerline is right on! We all knew at the time that it was a political
hit piece to help turn around the Kerry freefall. AND yet quote “the Panel cannot conclude
that a political agenda at 60 Minutes Wednesday drove either the timing
of the airing of the segment or its content.”

The panel blames "myopic zeal" rather than a political agenda.
Is that zeal as in ZEALOT as in BUSH-HATING ZEALOTS!!

IMO, the most damning phrase in the report --"to change the momentum of an election".
Isn't this fraud a federal offense??
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The report mentions Mapes' connection to Lockhart at the sKerry campaign and draws no conclusion.

Mentioned as well is the hubbub in Austin but nowhere have I heard that they investigated the curious timing of MoveOn.org's excremental "Unfit Commander: Texans for Truth Take on George W. Bush" by Glenn W. Smith.

cBS wasn't just biased, it was in collusion.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shawa wrote:
Me#1You#10
Powerline is right on! We all knew at the time that it was a political
hit piece to help turn around the Kerry freefall. AND yet quote “the Panel cannot conclude
that a political agenda at 60 Minutes Wednesday drove either the timing
of the airing of the segment or its content.”

The panel blames "myopic zeal" rather than a political agenda.
Is that zeal as in ZEALOT as in BUSH-HATING ZEALOTS!!

IMO, the most damning phrase in the report --"to change the momentum of an election".
Isn't this fraud a federal offense??



Heard it on MSM and CSPAN this morning waiting intently for the spin,and then:
'Rather says he still believes it'
FCC should penalize CBS.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 3:31 pm    Post subject: He has the look. Reply with quote

The Dan Blather of late, has the empty look of a man that someday will not recognize his wife. Kinda acts like it, too.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree that Dan is acting spacey. I really it noticed on election night.
As the inevitable became clear he really started stumbling over words,
garbling speech, etc.

The double whammy of Bush's triumph and his forced retirement as
anchor has put him in lala land. Not soon enough, IMHO.

Not only does he still believe his TANG story is authentic,
he regrets
that management forced him to make the apology (such as it was).
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From Captain's Quarters Blog:
"According to the report, Rather now renounces that half-hearted
apology. He says he did it only to be a "team player" after CBS got shellacked
by the media for the report. Amazingly, he still believes that the
Killian memos are genuine, and he supports Mary Mapes' contention
that the Thornburgh-Boccardi report actually bolsters that position.
Rather will engage in endless spin instead of acknowledging his
and CBS' egregious error -- a mindset
that has proven dangerous
in the newsroom, and one that should get
him fired immediately, if for no other reason."
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps we'd get the Truth if CSI investigated CBS.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Accuracy in Media points a finger at CBS WH Correspondent John Roberts...

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AIM Press Release

John Roberts of CBS News Pleads Ignorance in "Rathergate" Scandal; Insists "I Was Not Aware" of Dubious Source Behind Fake Documents


Trying to dig himself out of the "Rathergate" mess at CBS News, White House correspondent John Roberts is telling his critics that he didn't know that the documents he provided to the White House about the president's National Guard service were questionable and came from a dubious source, Bill Burkett. Accuracy in Media (AIM) says that Roberts, who is said to be in the running for Dan Rather's job, is deeply implicated in the "Rathergate" scandal that has just been examined by the two-person "independent panel" appointed by CBS.

AIM notes that Roberts was the personal representative of CBS News in a meeting with White House communications director Dan Bartlett, at a critical time when CBS News was developing its fake "story." In the meeting with Roberts, Bartlett was told that he was supposed to confirm or deny authenticity of the National Guard documents that turned out to be bogus. When Bartlett did not immediately denounce them as forgeries, Roberts provided that information to 60 Minutes producer Mary Mapes, as if Bartlett had verified the documents as authentic. This was seen as the critical green light for Mapes (and Dan Rather) to go ahead with the bogus story."

Bartlett later explained that CBS News provided documents that CBS News had said had "come from the personal file of a former commander" in the National Guard and that Roberts expected Bartlett "to authenticate them." The White House received the documents only three and one-half hours before Bartlett was interviewed by Roberts about them. Bartlett commented that "CBS had the obligation to authenticate them before they were used. They could have also given them to the White House much earlier so we had more time to verify them as well."

AIM Editor Cliff Kincaid commented that, "John Roberts was in a position to stop this fraudulent story before it aired. He did not."

The new panel report sheds some light on this controversy, noting that Roberts told CBS that the Bartlett interview had "gone well and that he had not disputed the authenticity of the documents…" The panel said "this reaction" by Roberts and CBS "seriously misplaced responsibility for making sure that the documents were authentic."

So John Roberts, the likely successor to Dan Rather, was guilty of helping to perpetrate this journalistic fraud.

Accuracy In Media - cont'd
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shawa
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Way back when the fraud was exposed, I said there were
four people I wanted to see fired--Rather, Mapes, Heyward,
and John Roberts.

Mapes got the ax.
Rather is allowed to retire early.
Heyward skates clean as a whistle.
And Roberts gets the prize of the anchor chair??

Go figure! That's seeBS.

Personally, I think they should all be facing criminal charges!!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The CBS strategy is working. Take the initial hit and people will soon forget. The cable news networks are doing their cousins at CBS a favor by ignoring the story. Let us hope that Joe Scarboough and Pat Buchanan have enough influence at MSNBC to stay on the case until all the facts are discovered concerning this conspiracy. Pat is right when he says somebody needs to go to jail. He will be on the Don Imus Show in the morning and it should be an interesting discussion.
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