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kate
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| SBD wrote: | How about this little known charge??
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See this from the Denver Post
Sunday, February 13, 2005 http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~53~2709008,00.html
Questions stoke Ward Churchill's firebrand Past
Really long article, starting from his youth to present...excellant compilation, summary
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| Quote: | Clouded picture from Vietnam
U.S. Army records produced in 2004 in response to a request from the organization News From Indian Country show that Churchill was inducted on Nov. 16, 1966, and trained as a light-truck driver and projectionist. He spent most of a year in Vietnam.
The stories he has told over the years of his Vietnam service have varied dramatically. On a 1980 résumé submitted to the University of Colorado, Churchill wrote that he served as a public-information specialist who "wrote and edited the battalion newsletter and wrote news releases."
In a 1987 interview with The Denver Post, and as recently as two weeks ago, Churchill described his Vietnam service as more complicated. In the 1987 interview, he said he had attended paratrooper school and been assigned as part of an elite long- range reconnaissance patrol to hunt the enemy. His service records do not reflect paratrooper school, or training or assignment on reconnaissance.
At his recent trial on charges of disrupting Denver's Columbus Day parade, he said he had walked "point" in a combat unit in Vietnam and was called "chief" because of his Indian heritage.
"I was on the ground pulling triggers. You can't undo that. And I have an obligation to do what I can by way of compensation," Churchill said in a recent interview. "You can say that is the foundational reason that I do most all of what I do."
Lt. Justin Journeay, a spokesman for the Army at Fort Carson, said it is conceivable a truck driver in Vietnam could have seen combat in some situations. But he said he doubted that a driver would lead point on patrol.
Churchill has repeatedly declined to comment on the discrepancies between his printed military record and the descriptions he has given of his service.
War was a turning point
But there is little question that he returned from Vietnam after his discharge in 1968 as a changed person.
"When he came back from Vietnam, he turned into a radical," said Scott Davis, a high school classmate. "He was a war protester. He burned the American flag in front of the Peoria County Courthouse."
In the 1987 interview, Churchill said he started spending time in Chicago at the office of Students for a Democratic Society, an anti-war, leftist group. There, he said, he became friends with Mark Clark of Peoria, a member of the Black Panthers killed in 1969 in a shootout with police.
He also said he met representatives of the radical Weather Underground, and he said in 1987 that he had taught them how to make bombs. He has declined to comment since then on his 1987 claims. |
| Quote: | Lawsuits and legal troubles
Since 1983, Churchill has had several minor run-ins with the law. He also has been stopped for speeding, driving an unsafe vehicle and driving without a valid license, according to court records. Officers and police records listed him as white.
In 1996, Churchill clashed with a parking services employee and was cited for use of intimidation and violence on CU grounds. Those charges were dropped.
Additionally, he has been sued more than a dozen times, including a 1992 suit filed by the U.S. government for failing to repay an $18,000 student loan, a judgment that was satisfied by Churchill. |
lots more in the article, re school, career, family, 4 wives, etc
at the link above
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redleg2
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| Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Military Buddy Finder shows Ward Churchill to be an E4 16B20, truck driver. |
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Tanya
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Is it true that Churchhill said that he spent Christmas in Wounded Knee in 1968  Also, there are songs about him now . . .
http://www.mediawhore.com/boyles/  |
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Beatrice1000
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Looks like he has found a place to speak where he will be welcomed:
sfbay-anarchists.org
10th Annual SF Anarchists Book Fair – March 26th.
Speakers confirmed so far include: …. "Ward Churchill - reknowned scholar activist and troublemaker is the author and editor of numerous books and audio CDs. His latest work is On The Justice Of Roosting Chickens." …
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kate
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| Quote: | | Ward Churchill - reknowned scholar activist and troublemaker |
OMG, they actually said that at the link -thought maybe those were your words - Never met an anarchist, dont think I want to. After reading that long Denver Post article, I had the impression of a violent man. Anger/violence threaded throughout his life, including his family.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Can't this guy be tied to Kerry?? |
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| GM Strong wrote: | | If ethnic studies were not required the question is, would anybody take them. Probably not. It's just a way to provide a salary for these nitwits. Just what the hell does one do with a major in ethnic studies in the real world?? |
IF the requirements to study the (ethnic) group followed a discipline similar to economics and/or most engineering studies, I'd take one.
The basic questions to me, are usually:
(a) what people(s) comprise the ethnic group?
(b) how did the ethnic group get started, and/or when did they get "group" recognition?
(c) what stereotypes are usually applied to this group, and are those stereotypes universal, or are they regionalized?
You usually get nailed for political incorrectness and/or insensitivity before you get past (a) and (b) nowdays, though. |
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Winston is spinning in his grave.  |
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GM Strong
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This begs the question. Can Liberals, ultra leftists, anarchists, Envirowhackos, etc. be considerd ethnic groups??
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Does anyone see what I see in this photo, THIS foney has the same
chin as the one who tried to blackmain AMERICA into the whitehouse?
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Yeah, I noticed that. But if they are related, it must be through French blood lines because neither is an Indian. That is unless you count the Wannabe tribe or the Hakawes. Would you believe the Yakalots?
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kate
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Denver Post - good source for links in the Churchill controversy
http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~53~2733299,00.html
CU weighs buyout for firebrand prof
| Quote: | University of Colorado officials are considering offering Ward Churchill an early retirement package that could end an increasingly uncomfortable standoff with the controversial professor.
Two people familiar with internal CU discussions said the still-undetermined offer is in the idea stage. The discussions come just a week before a three-person panel is scheduled to deliver a report on Churchill's fitness for tenure.
David Lane, Churchill's attorney, said he has not been contacted about a buyout offer.
But, he said, while his primary focus is on protecting Churchill's constitutional right to speak out, he would be willing to listen to a university proposal.
"If they offer $10 million, I would think about it. If they offer him $10, I wouldn't," Lane said.
Attorneys for CU were not available for comment Friday afternoon.
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Rocky Mountain News
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/opinion/article/0,1299,DRMN_38_3577155,00.html
Absence of rigor
Opinons seem to hold sway at CU today, and students suffer
By Rabbi Hillel Goldberg
February 26, 2005
| Quote: | The Ward Churchill controversy has exposed the underbelly of undergraduate education in the social sciences and humanities today. The problem is not Churchill per se, nor even the supposed imbalance between liberal and conservative professors on many college campuses. A university worth its salt would not care whether its faculty were 100 percent Republican or 100 percent Democratic.
Both supporters and critics of Churchill miss the point in one vital area: the role of the professor in the liberal arts.
Perhaps nowhere is this more poignant than in the seemingly reasonable position of David Horowitz, who maintains that universities need more conservative faculty members to "balance" the preponderantly leftist bent among faculty. Ironically, under this vision, Horowitz and Churchill agree: a professor's primary role is to advance his personal philosphical agenda.
Not so. The role of the professor is to teach - to enable students through careful tutelage in critical reading and careful research to reach their own conclusions. The role of the professor is not to spout off, and the definition of a good university is not a place where the spouting is equally balanced between left and right.
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If one defends Churchill, the teacher, on grounds of free speech, one perverts the purpose of the university classroom, which is not professor-focused, but student-focused. It is not a professor's free speech, but the student's rigorous, unbiased training, that is the university's purpose. If a professor must fall back on free speech or academic freedom to defend himself, it's usually because he violated his mission: focus on the student.
I shall not burden a single soul besides Ward Churchill with the responsibility for his own intellectual grotesqueries, but they do arise in a context - the derogation of critical thinking in the classroom, in favor of partisan viewpoints and an accompanying lowering of standards.
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Rabbi Goldberg closes the article with...
| Quote: | | I write this with considerable sadness because our daughter just graduated from CU, where she received a superb education - in the sciences. It is time for all concerned to speak out, to state what should be obvious: Standards are not just for the sciences. Liberal arts are not a free-for-all. |
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| Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 3:41 pm Post subject: Looks like |
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| His picture looks like he could be someone's great-aunt. Probaly is a female. Everything else about him is phony. |
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