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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 8:10 pm    Post subject: WashPost OpEd: The GOP's Lesson on Abortion Reply with quote

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A28527-2005Mar11.html

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The GOP's Lesson on Abortion

By E. J. Dionne Jr.
Saturday, March 12, 2005; Page A19

Why are George W. Bush and his party so skillful in dealing with the abortion issue, and why are Democrats so clumsy?

It turns out that Democrats willing to grapple seriously with these questions risk getting seriously trashed. It makes you wonder whether Democrats enjoy losing elections.

First, let's look at Bush's mastery. He warms the hearts of abortion's staunchest foes by appointing conservative judges and invoking the code words "a culture of life." But he rarely gets directly crosswise with supporters of abortion rights by explicitly calling for an end to abortion.

In the third debate last fall, John Kerry noted that while he would "not allow somebody to come in and change Roe v. Wade, the president has never said whether or not he would do that." In a 220-word reply, Bush never mentioned Roe and made a point of stressing, "I understand there's great differences on this issue of abortion." That's how Bush managed to win 38 percent of voters who told exit pollsters last year that they thought abortion should be "mostly legal."

More than that, the Republican Party has been utterly realistic, indeed ruthless, in engineering the nomination of pro-choice candidates if they had the better chance of winning. The amazing thing is that some of the staunchest opponents of abortion went right along and sidetracked allies if that was what victory required.

The best example: last year's Republican primary in Pennsylvania between Sen. Arlen Specter and Rep. Pat Toomey. Specter is pro-choice, Toomey pro-life. Guess who campaigned hard for Specter, following the dictates of Bush and the party establishment? None other than Rick Santorum, Pennsylvania's other Republican senator and one of the most resolute opponents of abortion in Congress. Santorum turned his back on his fellow pro-lifer because Specter, he said, was "an important ally to the president." Specter won the primary and held the seat for the GOP.

Sen. Charles E. Schumer, a New York Democrat, is a close student of these events. As the new chairman of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, his job is to elect more Democrats. He's ruffled some feathers by thinking the way Karl Rove does, searching for the strongest Democratic candidate in a contested state and trying to prevent divisive primaries.

Schumer's initial salvo, ironically, involved a quest for a candidate to run against Santorum in 2006. According to Schumer, "it turned out that the strongest candidate in Pennsylvania, according to everyone we talked to, was Bob Casey." That would be Robert Casey Jr., the state treasurer whose name may sound familiar because his father, a pro-labor liberal, became a hero to the right-to-life movement when the Democrats denied him platform time at their 1992 convention. The son, like his father (who died in 2000), is pro-life.

It's hard to find a stronger supporter of abortion rights than Schumer. But he fears that the causes he cares about, including legal abortion, will be in jeopardy if Democrats continue to lose ground in the Senate. "If we lose three seats," Schumer said, "many of the things we've cherished and valued over the last 50 years would go out the window." Schumer pushed hard for Casey, and last week Barbara Hafer, a pro-choice former state treasurer, reluctantly took herself out of the contest.

A similar struggle is taking shape in Rhode Island, where the Senate Democratic leadership is, in theory, neutral but has seen polls indicating that Rep. James Langevin, another opponent of abortion, is the strongest potential Democrat against Sen. Lincoln Chafee, a moderate pro-choice Republican. The Democratic secretary of state, Matt Brown, who favors abortion rights, is a potential primary foe.

Enter Hollywood. Virginia Hopper, wife of actor Dennis Hopper, organized a letter with her pro-choice allies urging financial support for Brown: "This is even more important than one precious Senate seat; it is a fight to protect women and families, and a fight for the core and soul of our party." In a rather graceless warning, the Hopper letter declared that "money is the biggest and loudest message." Langevin deserves a writing Oscar for his tart reply: "I find it hard to believe people in Hollywood can relate to the struggles of working families in Rhode Island."

Karl Rove must be grinning about all this. By managing the abortion issue with considerable cunning, Republicans are winning the power to stack the courts with the very sorts of conservative judges the pro-choice movement fears. You have to wonder why it is so hard for so many Democrats to learn that a little open-mindedness on a very difficult question is not only a virtue but also a necessity.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Again, the libs can't figure it out. A cunning tactic and political move instead of an fundamental belief based on faith and morality of right and wrong.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Due to my Christian faith and my love of children, it was a natural choice
for me to be Pro-life. In addition, some personal experiences that I have
had only solidified my belief that abortion is morally wrong. Even in the
case of rape or incest, it seems illogical to destroy an innocent baby
who had nothing to do with the circumstances that created him.

Despite my firm Pro-choice stance, I do not believe that it is possible to
pass, much less ratify, a consitutional ammendment to ban abortion. I
also do not think it very likely that the US Supreme Court will ever
overturn Roe v. Wade, not because there was ever any consitutional
basis for that decision, but because it is now over thirty years old. The
justices are very reluctant to overturn decisions that have such a long
history of being upheld by the courts.

Instead, I believe that the most important thing that "Pro-lifers" can do
to decrease the incidence of abortion is change the hearts of people.
Rush has said this many times, and I very much agree. A major
contributor in the recent decline of abortion is the amazing 3D pictures
of babies in the womb that are now possible through sonography. One
can not look at those pictures and say that the developing baby is an
"unviable tissue mass". Another thing that has made many people
realize that abortion is murder is the improvement in neonatology in
the past decade or two. One of my students has a niece (whom I have
had the pleasure of holding many times) who was born at 6 months
gestation and weighed just a little over a pound. She is now over a
year old and is perfectly normal, with the exception of a touch of
asthma and an increased susceptibility to respiratory infections.

I guess I would have to describe myself as someone who is ardently
Pro-life who is willing to accept that abortion is a legal procedure. I
think there are reasonable restrictions on abortion that can and should
be made by the states. I think that there is no reason why abortion
should be performed after the first trimester. I think that partial-birth
abortion was nothing more than infantacide and I am thrilled that this
barbaric procedure is no longer legal in the US. BTW, it is amazing to
me that libs who were crying over the death penalty for juveniles who
have committed vicious crimes could be in favor of a procedure in
which an infant capable of living outside the womb is brutally murdered
during delivery.

The problem with the abortion issue is that the extremes on both sides
of the movement would trash my position since I am neither Pro-life
enough or Pro-choice enough for either side. I believe that my position
is very close to that of President Bush and many other Republicans. I
also believe that my role as a Christian is to witness to others as often
as the Lord gives me the opportunity about what the Bible has to say
about when life begins. For example, Jeremiah says that "before I
formed you in your mother's womb, I knew you". I also think it is
very important that women be informed about the development of
the embryo and how early in gestation that the nervous system develops,
enabling the infant to feel pain. One of the most tragic things that can
happen is for a young woman who has been convinced to have an
abortion of "unviable tissue" to later see pictures of a 20 week fetus
with his thumb in his mouth. If she has any conscience at all, she will
be filled with a guilt that only the forgiveness of God can erase. The
Pro-choice crowd is afraid for women to be really informed about
child development because they know that such knowledge will reduce
the incidence of abortion which is a threat to their entire existence.
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