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minnie presley
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| If trerri dies I suggest that we succeded in bringing down kerry lets put all our effort into bringing down this judge when he comes up for re election, he is o cohoots with the lawyer and I would be interested to know what is in his bank account, I wish we had an -email address for him |
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Rdtf
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| vet_supporter wrote: | You know, this case stinks and the judge stinks. They have police stationed to keep someone from helping her? I bet they have more than were guarding the guy who murdered three people in the courthouse in Atlanta. Look at what was reported:
Barbara Weller, an attorney for Terri Schiavo's parents, told reporters Friday afternoon that during her visit earlier in the day she told Ms. Schiavo:
Story Continues Below
"Terri, if you would just say, 'I want to live,' all of this will be over."
According to pro-life activist Randall Terry, who recounted the scene to radio host Sean Hannity, Schiavo tried desperately to repeat Weller's words.
"'I waaaaannt ...,' Schiavo allegedly said, in a prolonged yell that had police stationed nearby running into her hospice room.
"She just started yelling, 'I waaaannt, I waaaannt,'" Terry said, according to Weller's account.
At that point police ejected Weller, he said.
Does this sound like a vegetable? Terri's family has said she responds and so do other people that have been there.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/3/18/174428.shtml |
Well that post did me in. She sounds and looks like someone with cerebral palsy - should all those people be starved to death too?! |
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minnie presley
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| Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 1:46 am Post subject: hospice |
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after reading about the hospice and judge, why is this place still operating, why have'nt the feds closed them down, and I feel this should be made public knowledge to everyone not just on this site,
if terri dies I hope her family will expose this and go after the hospice and all concerned, but I would pray that we as the people can help her before its too late |
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LewWaters
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In their efforts to "humanize" this judge, yesterdays New York Times printed the following article about him. I'll only post two excerpts here, then go throw up 
| Quote: | In Schiavo Feeding-Tube Case, Notoriety Finds Unlikely Judge
By ABBY GOODNOUGH
Published: March 17, 2005
MIAMI, March 16 - For most of his career, Judge George W. Greer presided over mundane local disputes that drew little notice outside Pinellas County or even his courtroom. People who know him say he considers himself a "compassionate conservative," a man whose religious faith is as dear to him as his reputation as a legal scholar. 
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Judge Greer, whose eyesight is so poor that he does not drive, has a soft voice and a patient manner in the courtroom. In his order that Mrs. Schiavo's feeding tube be removed, he politely cited the "excellent argument" of both sides' lawyers, |
JUDGE GREER - NEW YORK TIMES
Compassionate Conservative????? Deeply Religious????? Yet, he has no qualms joining in and orchestrating the willful murder of an innocent handicapped woman???????
Eyesight so poor he cannot drive a car??????? Maybe this explains it. Obviously, he cannot see well enough to be able to see she isn't a vegetable!!!!!!!!!!  
And, the left calls us on the right Nazis? Who is repeating the Nazi manner of killing off those they deem unnecessary to society? Like I said before, starve a dog and go to jail. Starve your wife and become a hero, at least in judge Greers court  
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shawa
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Sean Hannity talked with Kate Adamson on his radio show this afternoon.
She described how she was screaming inside but no one could hear her.
She has a powerful story and fortunately, had a husband who fought
FOR her, unlike that POS Michael Schiavo!!
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005/mar/05031408.html
| Quote: | Recovered “Vegetative State” Patient Kate Adamson Speaks Before Schiavo Rally
Withdrawal of food and water was “one of the most painful experiences you can imagine”
CLEARWATER, FL., March 14, 2005 (LifeSiteNews.com) - On Saturday a rally of over three-hundred of Terri Schiavo’s most die-hard supporters heard the first-hand account of the sufferings and remarkable recovery of Kate Adamson. Struck down in 1995 at the age of thirty-three by a rare double brainstem stroke, Kate, then a mother of two young girls, was completely paralyzed; she was unable even to blink her eyes. Like Terri Schiavo, the medical staff treating her questioned the merit of continuing granting Kate the most basic human right of food and water.
Terri Schiavo, although not nearly as severely disabled as Adamson once appeared to be, is slotted to have her feeding tube removed at 1:00 pm this Friday. Similarly, Kate Adamson’s feeding tube was at one point removed for a full eight days before being reinserted due to the intervention of her husband (also a competent lawyer).
Frequently described by medical authorities as a humane way to die, Kate - now as vibrant and beautiful as before her stroke - testified before the crowd of Terri’s family and supporters that this form of legalized execution was “one of the most painful experiences you can imagine." Unable to respond or to indicate awareness, Kate Adamson asserts, “I was just like Terri…but I was alive! I could hear every word. They were saying ‘shall we just not treat her?’...I suffered excruciating misery in silence.”
This personal testimony confirms what Terri supporters have long suspected—that the execution sought by her husband Michael Schiavo is anything but painless and humane. Furthermore, Kate’s remarkable recovery to nearly full mental and physical health—-she still suffers partial paralysis of her left side—-gives Terri supporters hope that Terri too may still experience a similar recovery, if granted proper care and treatment.
During her early-afternoon speech Kate declared that “If they want to kill Terri they should have the guts to put a gun to her head” rather than condemn her to such a slow and painful death. She finished off by summing up the full import of the Schiavo case, saying, “The measure of a society is how they treat the least of us. Life is sacred or meaningless, there is nothing in between.”
Contact Kate Adamson by visiting http://www.katesjourney.com |
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Rdtf
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CNN just a little while ago had this story on - but their spin was how Terri's weight 'went up and down' and even showed a part of the Larry King interview with her husband speaking about her eating disorder. I was horrfied and had to turn it off. Why doesn't some MSM journalist with some b**** ask to SOB why he doesn't divorce her and walk away? And ask him why he hasn't spent the money he was awarded as her guardian for her care?
I have some hope that there are Feds out there keeping a close eye on his finances, and that of his lawyer, this idiot judge and anyone else that could gain from her silence. |
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LewWaters
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| Quote: | | I have some hope that there are Feds out there keeping a close eye on his finances, and that of his lawyer, this idiot judge and anyone else that could gain from her silence. |
If I remember right, they claim the money is all but gone, now. Greer authorized useage of the money to pay legal fees for attorney's wishing to see her dead, some $400,000 going to Felos, alone. While Greer sealed the financial records of the case, some records were obtained to reveal how some of the money disappeared.
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shawa
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Dr. Hammesfahr was nominated for the Nobel Prize in Medicine and Physiology in 1999.
| Quote: | Dr. William Hammesfahr is an internationally recognized expert on cases of brain-injured patients. He has been identified in helping patients with chronic brain injuries from many causes actually leave long term disability, and return to work.
Terri Schiavo's injury, hypoxic encephalopathy, is a type of stroke that he treats every day with success.
"We, and others I know, have treated many patients worse than Terri and have seen them regain independence and dignity," Hammesfahr said.
"There are many approaches that would help Terri Schiavo," Dr. Hammesfahr explained. "I know, because I had the opportunity to personally examine her, her medical records, and her X-rays." |
In 2002, the Court requested that he examine Terri to update her condition. His sworn affidavit follows:
http://www.apfn.org/Schiavo/Hammesfahrexam.htm
Excerpt:
| Quote: | Opinion:
The patient is not in coma.
She is alert and responsive to her environment. She responds to specific
people best. She tries to please others by doing activities for which she gets verbal
praise. She responds negatively to poor tone of voice. She responds to music.
She differentiates sounds from voices.
She differentiates specific people's voices from others.
She differentiates music from stray sound.
She attempts to verbalize.
She has voluntary control over multiple extremities
She can swallow.
She is partially blind
She is probably aphasic and has a degree of receptive aphasia.
She can feel pain.
On the last point, it is interesting to observe that the records from Hospice
show frequent medication administered for pain by staff.
With respect to specifics and specific recommendations in
order to carry out the instructions
of the Second District Court of Appeal:
From a neurological standpoint: The patient appears to be partially blind.
She needs a full opthamological evaluation and visual evoked potentials done to
flash and checkerboard patters. The opthamological examination is to evaluate her
retina and her ophthalmic nerve to try to determine the cause of her visual
limitations and if any treatment exists. The evoked potentials looks at the nerve
between the eye and the visual centers in the brain, to see if there is treatable
damage and the type of damage, if any in these areas. This is important, as for
individuals to interact with her, and possibly teach her better ways of
communicating with others, they must know what sort of limitations she has. This
even extends to whether she can see people or objects in specific areas of her
vision, and what size objects need to be to be accurately seen.
Additionally, if one
were to properly examine her, it would help if one knew the full extent of these test results.
Communication: She can communicate. She needs a Speech Therapist,
Speech Pathologist, and a communications expert to evaluate how to best
communicate with her and to allow her to communicate and for others to
communicate with her. Also, a treatment plan for how to develop better
communication needs to be done.
Rehabilitation Medicine: The patient has severe contractures. She
needs a specialist to evaluate these and develop a treatment plan.
Endocrine: The patient has clinical evidence of an abnormally functioning
endocrine system. Her blood pressure is abnormally low. Many patients with
severe neurological injury have low blood pressure due to an abnormally
functioning endocrine system. The reason for this should be determined and
corrected, as with a more normal blood pressure, she is likely to have even better
neurological functioning. She has facial acne consistent with hormonal
abnormalities.
ENT: The patient can clearly swallow, and is able to swallow approximately
2 liters of water per day (the daily amount of saliva generated). Water is one of the
most difficult things for people to swallow. It is unlikely that she currently needs the feeding tube.
She should be evaluated by an Ear Nose and Throat specialist, and have a new swallowing exam.
Mammography needs to be performed.
Spinal Exam: The patient's exam from a spinal perspective is abnormal.
The degree of limitation of range of motion, and of spasms in her neck, is consistent
with a [b]neck injury. The abnormal sensory exam, that shows evidence of her
hypoxic encephalopathic strokes (right side sensory responses are different from
left) also suggests a spinal cord injury at around the level of C4. Her physical exam
and videotapes also suggest a spinal cord injury is also present, as she has much
better control over he face, head, and neck, than over her arms and legs. This
reminds one of a person with a spinal cord injury who has good facial control, but
poor use of arms and legs. It is possible that a correctable spinal abnormality such
as a herniated disk may be found that could be treated and result in better
neurological functioning. This should be looked for, as may be treatable. Thus,
there may be an injured disk or spinal cord; the disk injury is more treatable, the
spinal cord injury, if present without a disk injury, may be more difficult to treat. A
person with a spinal cord injury and hypoxic encephalopathy will need different
treatment and rehab recommendations than one who just has a hypoxic
encephalopathic.
Interestingly, I have seen this pattern of mixed brain
(cerebral) and spinal cord findings in a patient once before, a patient who
was asphyxiated.
A urological consultation should be obtained: I disagree with Dr.
Gambone's view that the patient's bacteria in the urine may be ignored.
In my experience, colonization of the bladder can very distinctly affect the
patient's neurological status and affect their rehabilitation. The patient needs a urological consultation both to examine the bladder issue, resolve if there are possibly
colonized and kidney stones (that may be the source of recurring bladder
infections). Also, one significant mechanism of diagnosing and finding and
diagnosing spinal cord injuries is through sophisticated bladder EMG and other testing. This should be done.
The neurosurgeon who placed the implant should be contacted for
recommendations.
A neurological examination can only be carried out in the context of a
complete understanding of the patient's physiology, including current
blood tests. Thus the tests that Dr. Gambone did months ago, before we
had access to the patient, should immediately be repeated.
EEG: I have reviewed the EEG recently obtained. The EEG has large
amounts of artifact. The technician's attempted to remove artifact by filtering.
Unfortunately, filtering also affects and reduces evident brain electronic activity.
This EEG is not adequate and should be repeated. It should be repeated at the
patient's bedside, with the patient in a non-agitated state.~snip~ |
A lengthy and careful examination with recommendations for tests
and treatment,
as opposed to the very brief cursory exam done by Michael Schiavo's "chosen doctor"!
Obviously, the Judge was not impressed by the Nobel Doctor.
Especially, when Dr. Hammestfahr noted he had seen that type
of neck injury only ONCE before on a patient who had been 'strangled'.
No tests or treatment were ever allowed!
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This is just plain sickening. If you've watched any coverage on Fox News you can't have missed footage of her reacting to her surroundings.
Before I saw that footage all I had to go on was the "persistent vegetative state" lie. Sounds like she is brain dead. My wife, hearing that, said hell, if she is brain dead let her go.
Then we kept seeing the video of her. Her eyes react to the balloon moving around. She is obviously trying to smile. She even tried to speak in one shot I saw. That is far different from what you picture as a vegetable. The broccoli I had at dinner was a vegetable and deserved its fate. This woman is alive and apparently capable of reacting to her surroundings.
Hell, convicted murderers have more rights than this poor woman. So why doesn't the ACLU file a friend of the court brief with the Supremes seeking a stay of execution for her? They get all worked up because the Boy Scouts don't want some gay taking our sons on a week-long camping trip, but they don't care if we starve somebody to death?
You know, since I was a kid I've thought that "contempt of Congress" was a reasonable thing considering the clowns that have occupied that place. But this week they have done themselves proud. Imagine the legislative branch of the government coming together to try to think of a way to stop this crap. It's kind of awesome when you think of the government trying to do right by the people and actually working for the people.
If nothing else, I sure hope 20 or 30 Bubbas get together and grab her and take her someplace where the doctors follow the Hippocratic Oath rather than the hypocrital left.
If being ugly and useless is the new criteria for the death penalty I am really worried. Maybe my friends will hide me. Isn't the whole purpose of having a government to protect the weak and helpless?
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LewWaters
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While reading various sites devoted to saving this lady I ran across the title of "THE SLIDE TO AUSCHWITZ" By: C. Everett Koop, M.D. I searched and found the entire article. Written in January of 1977 and primarily addressing the issue of abortion on demand, Dr. Koop shows the efforts in Germany, even before Hitler came to power, that eventually led to the senseless slaughter of millions in that country. Sadly, history seems to be repeating itself today.
It is a long read but well worth it, I feel. Thirty years ago, he foresaw exactly where we have ended up today and what lies ahead for us frightens me even more than my time in Viet Nam.
The Slide to Auschwitz
It embarrasses me to admit that I, as many have, turned a blind eye to what has been happening within our country for three decades now. I too was numbed by the terms of "death with dignity," "quality of life," and such terms used by the Euthanasia crowd. It has taken the efforts of a sleazebag "husband in name only" in Central Florida to murder his innocent wife to wake me up. My eyes are opened now and will remain open till this move is either defeated or I pass on myself.
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I am sitting here in a state of disbelief. I have been reading postings all over the place and there are a group people, the same ones for the most part, saying that those of us who think starving a living being to death are wrong !
They denounce the biological family of Terri for wanting her to live.
They ignore that Terri has been abused by neglect. Not allowed treatment or stimulation.
They ignore the fact that Terri goes to sleep and wakes up. That she breathes on her own.
They support this monster of an incompetent judge who has made sure only the kill Terri side has been heard.
But the bottom line is that they are so stupid, they cannot see how cruel starving to death is.
If going without food was easy, there would be no fat people in this world.
I'm trying to decide what I can do. I've sent e-mails and made donations. But I really feel frustrated.
The clock is ticking. Within 24 hours, Terri will begin to really suffer. How many of you have had to stop all food and water the night before a medical test or surgery? Remember how it was ? I was miserable and all I could think about was water which made the test or surgery more stressful.
When Terri's parents lawyer told Terri what they were going to do, Terri started yelling. Does this sound like a vegetable? She understand what was told her. She can't speak but she can understand.
Starving any living being to death is inhumane, PERIOD !. Of course, euthanasia, mercy killing, is illegal. So, they use this loophole, starving a helpless person to death because they can't feed themselves. Hence, why they refuse to kill her outright. So much for the law when this loophole exist.
Center for Reclaiming America has a list of the Florida Senators that voted against saving Terri from a cruel, inhumane death. I suggest everyone send them an e-mail.
If this execution of the handicapped is not stopped, it will be the precident that these leftist thugs are looking for to get rid of the old and infirmed. They've been getting away with it for a long time now. This case is the opportunity for us, people who believe is life and rights, to put a stop to it. |
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I think her husband has ulterior motives for wanting to end her life.
He has another family (not married) but with 2 children.
He also is in control of the 1.2 million settlement that was meant to take care of Terri Schiavo for the rest of her life.
If he lets her live and gives all control to Terri's parents, he will have to give up the loot.
Its really sad that part of the money the jury awarded for Terri's well-being is being used to pay for an attorney to end her life. |
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| Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 3:23 pm Post subject: heard |
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Heard on Savage last night: Someone within the court system of Mis-Judge Adolph Greer said he can't even see well enough to read the legal briefs!
Once again, where am I? |
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From: http://hyscience.typepad.com/hyscience/2005/02/michael_schiavo_1.html
| Quote: | About a year and a half ago, I worked two 40 hour wknds(!) up all night in the offices of the (former) lawyer for Terri's parents. I was able to read most of the files on the case. I was there when two former nurses phoned (separately and entirely of their own volition)and asked to come in and give an affidavit about what they knew. They said they could no longer keep silent, though for years they were so intimidated by Michael Schiavo, they were afraid to speak up. I was there when each of them, on their own, arrived in the garage of the office building. Both of them looked around to make sure they were not being followed! Both of them described hideous behavior over the years by Michael Schiavo. They described his phone calls (especially when she had an infection and he forbade antibiotics) asking the nurses "Is the ***** dead yet?" and his boasting of how he was going to spend the money he would get after her death. Weeks would go by when he would not visit at all. Once he received the million dollar settlement, he forbade Terri being taken outside in a wheelchair for change of scenery and fresh air. He forbade music on her radio. He had her personal effects removed from the room - all visual stimuli. Her parents and siblings were not allowed to visit her and could not read her chart. One of the nurses talked about his visits to Terri when he closed the door and was alone with her. When that nurse entered the room after he left, she found Terri shaken, trembling and pale and looking as if she was in a diabetic crisis. Terri has no blood sugar problems due to her regulated diet, but seeing her distress and the appearance of diabetic crisis, the nurse gave her a glucose test anyway and the numbers were so skewed that it was clear Terri was in insulin shock. The nurse gave her a shot to alleviate the diabetic shock and immediately suspected Michael had injected her during his visit to cause this. I believe she said this happened at least twice. The nurses also described taking care of Terri and how when she had menstrual cramps she would curl up and put her hands on her tummy (she was able to move them in those early days before the atrophy progressed due to Michael forbidding therapy)and clearly say "Pain!" or "Pain!" and call for her mother. They said that's how they knew to give her medication for her menstrual pain. They talked about how after Michael won the big settlement award, he forbade all further rehab treatment of every kind. So, on a visit to Terri, he saw this nurse had threaded a washcloth between Terri's fingers to relieve the cramping and he pulled it out of her fingers and shouted "I said NO THERAPY!" Michael removed all family photos from her room. He refused to allow her teeth to be brushed (no doubt hoping a tooth infection would give her a heart attack). When the nurses wrote in her daily chart they had observed her speaking words like "Pain" and "Mommy", the next day their comments were missing from the chart! They talked about how he would stand extra close to them and shout in their faces that he would see that they were fired if they tried to feed her or go against any of his orders. He is a very tall and large man and towers over the average man or woman. They also mentioned that he was having an affair or flirtation with the head nurse and they suspected that's how the charts were being altered. One nurse tried to report the mistreatment of Terri and was fired. I seem to recall she even went to the police but nothing came of it. And there is more - George Felos was on the Board of Directors (cannot recall if he was chair or owner) of the hospice where she was kept. He resigned his post to avoid the scandal of that connection being made. Some of you may not realize that legally a hospice is only for those who have six months or less left to live, who are terminally ill. Hospice is not a convalescent home - it is a place to die in painless comfort with counseling and support given to patient and family. Terri does not belong in hospice. Patients in her condition are normally cared for in convalescent homes. Did you know that George Felos has a book about Terri already written and ready to publish as soon as she dies?
While I worked at that law office, coincidentally, one of the attorneys had an unrelated reason to visit a local funeral home. During that visit, a casual conversation with a funeral home employee revealed, entirely by accident, that the funeral home had an "open file" set up for the immediate, without delay or autopsy, cremation of Terri Schiavo upon her death. Michael Schiavo made these arrangements immediately after winning the big million dollar settlement and all these years they stand ready to carry out his wishes. Once her body is cremated, no one will ever be able to prove the abuse he is so desperate to conceal.
While working in that office I also read statements by co-workers and friends of Terri about the bruises she had, the evident signs of physical abuse that were visible when she would come to work and which she claimed were the result of wrestling with Michael, but no one believed that. Eventually, she admitted to a co-worker and a friend that she wanted to leave Michael and that he was dominating and controlling and she was frightened of him. She talked about leaving him and sharing an apartment with the girlfriend she confided in. She said that Michael was so controlling and scary that he would check her odometer after her daily usage of the car. His behavior is an exact match to that of spousal abusers. When Terri met Michael, she was completely smitten with him - he was very handsome and he was her first boyfriend. She had been a bit chubby and became very weight conscious to be attractive to him. She worshipped him initially and he was able to dominate and intimidate her quite easily due to her naivete. Terri was a vivacious girl. She was a rescuer and enabler by nature. She loved and caredfor injured birds and animals and was very much pro-life. She is also Catholic and there is no reason to believe she disagrees with the church's pro-life stance.
To those who have heard negative comments about Terri's parents, I will say that I am a mature sophisticated woman and have lived all over the country and worked in the health and legal fields most of my life. I met her parents and I have no doubt whatsoever that they are anything less than devoted, loving parents. They are both small in stature and soft-spoken gentle ordinary, middle-class people. I have children in their 30's - parental love only grows with the years and I would fight as hard as they have to prevent the completion of the murder of their daughter.
Most of the money awarded by the court for Terri's rehabilitation has been paid to George Felos. I don't understand how money that is misspent as this was cannot be grounds for prosecution of Michael. He wept in court and brought experts in to testify that Terri could be rehabilitated if they only were given enough money. So, they won that settlement and he immediately ceased all rehab.
I am baffled by the stubborn meanness and refusal of that idiot probate(!) (probate law does not require genius, to put it mildly) judge Greer to admit solid evidence and handle this case fairly. Who knows what transpires behind closed doors to slant the judge in this fashion? Conspiracy? As long as people in this country allow themselves to be told "conspiracy" is a bad word or that believing one exists means you are a nutcase, then we will continue to be duped by unprincipled, self-serving criminals who worship money and power and have no respect for human life. A conspiracy is whenever two or more people secretly plan something and clearly something has compromised the justice in this case.
Just for the record, I am pro-choice and I also believe in a patient's right to choose IF they are able to prepare and sign a witnessed, notarized living will or DNR document. Terri is not vegetative or in any coma at all. Who cannot see the love and life in her eyes when she sees her mother? She was nearly killed and will be killed if Michael gets his way. George Felos will have a bestseller and probably kick back some of that money to Michael Schiavo and who knows who else will profit?
I had to share some of these facts - the news never really reports the truth nowadays. Each day, our local news stations continue to refer to Terri as in a vegetative coma and it infuriates me. Not one journalist, not the local TV news nor the big stations, Larry King, Barbara Walters, etc., has thoroughly sleuthed out all the facts, even the ones I described here, and reported them to the public.
I cannot help but mention to all of you reading this - with so little truth being reported on this case - think about the quality of the news you hear on TV and in the papers about our government, the war in Iraq, social security reform, health and environment, education, political office, taxes, ufos, ETC!!! Do you really think you are getting the truth about everything and that Terri's case is an isolated incident of lies and deceit and poor reporting?
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shawa
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| Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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From my post above:
| Quote: | | one of the attorneys had an unrelated reason to visit a local funeral home. During that visit, a casual conversation with a funeral home employee revealed, entirely by accident, that the funeral home had an "open file" set up for the immediate, without delay or autopsy, cremation of Terri Schiavo upon her death. |
I believe that Michael Schiavo caused Terri's condition (either intentionally
or in a fit of anger).
From Dr. Hammesfahr's Affidavit that I previously posted:
| Quote: | Ms Schiavo was in her usual state of good health until 2/25/90, when her husband reported that he was awakened from sleep approximately 6 Am by her falling. He reports that she was unresponsive.
Paramedics were called, and aggressive resuscitation was performed with 7 defibrillations en route.
In the Emergency Room, a possible diagnosis of heart attack was briefly
entertained, but then dismissed after blood chemistries and serial EKG's did not show evidence of a heart attack.
Similarly, a pulmonary or lung cause of the disorder was ruled out in the Emergency Room after normal blood gases and Chest X-Rays were obtained.
The possibility of toxic shock syndrome was also entertained.
The diagnosis of the cause of her condition was unknown.
Her admission laboratory studies showed low potassium level, markedly elevated glucose level, and a normal toxic screen without evidence of diet pills or amphetamines.
The abnormal potassium level and sugar level were found on admission to the Emergency Room and were successfully corrected by the hospital staff over the next several days. |
I don't believe Michael was awakened from a deep sleep by the sound of her
falling. How loud of a noise could this small woman make by falling on the floor?
SCENARIO: From reports I've read, Michael had some medical knowledge.
Did he try to inject her with something that caused the abnormal
potassium and sugar level? Did she wake up and ask what the H*LL
was he doing? Did he then strangle her causing her neck injury (an injury
which Dr. Hammesfahr stated he had only seen ONCE BEFORE-- in a victim
of asphyxiation)?
I believe he thought she was dead when he called 911!!
And he has ordered an immediate cremation with NO AUTOPSY!!!
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(side note): Why is it that all of the Media reports her condition is the result of a heart attack???
Dr. Hammesfahr states "In the Emergency Room, a possible diagnosis of heart attack was briefly entertained, but then dismissed after blood chemistries and serial EKG's did not show evidence of a heart attack."
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