 |
SwiftVets.com
Service to Country
|
| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
Barbie2004
Commander
Joined: 18 Sep 2004
Posts: 338
|
 Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 3:01 pm Post subject: Spineless Republicans--(Leftist) Democrats Really in Power-- |
 |
|
From Powerline:
| Quote: | Reader Sean Rushton pointed out this disquieting article in The Hill:
| Quote: | Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Pa.), a leading advocate of the “nuclear option” to end the Democrats’ filibuster of judicial nominees, is privately arguing for a delay in the face of adverse internal party polls.
Details of the polling numbers remain under wraps, but Santorum and other Senate sources concede that, while a majority of Americans oppose the filibuster, the figures show that most also accept the Democratic message that Republicans are trying to destroy the tradition of debate in the Senate.
The Republicans are keeping the “nuclear” poll numbers secret, whereas they have often in the past been keen to release internal survey results that favor the party. David Winston, head of the Winston Group, which conducts Senate GOP polls, did return phone calls seeking comment.
Confirming public disquiet over the “nuclear” or “constitutional” option, Santorum said, “Our polling shows that.” But, he added, public thinking had been muddied by what he called false Democratic arguments that checks and balances were being eroded.
Many Republicans and conservative activists had thought the Senate GOP leadership would trigger the tactic next week to end the judicial filibuster. The nominees considered most appropriate for such a historic procedural maneuver, Priscilla Owen and Janice Rogers Brown, are expected to be discharged from the Judiciary Committee later this week.
Conservative activists said they received word last week to ramp up their communication efforts on the constitutional option with the goal of having their activity peak next week, before the May recess.
But GOP aides said Santorum has made known to the leadership reasons for why Republicans should not move forward on the nuclear or constitutional option.
“He was concerned that too many things are competing in the same area and you couldn’t get a clean shot at it,” a GOP aide said. The aide cited the “fallout” from congressional Republicans’ intervening in a Florida court’s decision to remove Terri Schiavo’s feeding tube and the subsequent controversy caused by House Majority Leader Tom DeLay’s (R-Texas) statement that “the time will come for the men responsible for this to answer for their behavior.” |
The GOP's Senate leadership knows a lot more about conditions in that body than we do, so it's hard to second-guess their strategy. To the extent that the delay is based on poll numbers, however, I would offer this comment: Because of their control over the news media, the Democrats can often sway poll data over the short term. They have to pick their spots, but if they concentrate their fire on a particular issue, or a particular nominee, the media will fall into line and, temporarily at least, sway public opinion. But it is hard to see how that justifies backtracking on the Constitutional option, or how a delay in the vote will be helpful.
The next election is a year and a half away. If the Republicans in the Senate aren't willing to buck the polls now, when will they be? And how can anyone think that a delay in pursuing the Constitutional option will cause the poll numbers to turn around? It won't. It will merely be perceived as blood in the water that causes the Democratic/media attacks to intensify.
Success breeds success, and weakness breeds more weakness. The Republicans have been voted into the majority. The greatest danger to them is not doing something that is temporarily unpopular; the greatest danger is being perceived as too weak to enact their agenda. That danger, I am afraid, is upon us. |
http://www.powerlineblog.com/
The only poll that matter is the one that took place last November!!
I am so angry, I cannot put it into words!
How in the world could the Schiavo case (where they used bogus polls) where the Republicans (with the OK of the Dems) tried to save a woman's life, who was set to be starved & dehydrated by a corrupt judge be a bad thing??? The only place they got themselves into trouble was by not doing enough, particularly Jeb.
Folks, Powerline doesn't mention it or doesn't realize it, but I am telling you that it is the labor unions, particularly the AFL-CIO that controls (through its labor unions of the press and reporters) the media, Hollywood (through SAG), our educational system (through the AFT, NEA & AAUP), etc., that is causing these "bogus polls" and "perceived public opinion".
Please make calls & emails as much as you can.
The communists are here and they are in the labor unions of the AFL-CIO and NEA that control the press, Hollywood, and our educational system.
 |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
kate
Admin
Joined: 14 May 2004
Posts: 1891
Location: Upstate, New York
|
| Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 3:22 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Quote: | | The only poll that matter is the one that took place last November!! |
they apparently need to be reminded who won the election. ( wonder just who they are polling?)
here's the contact info....pass along
_________________
.
one of..... We The People |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
RogerRabbit
Master Chief Petty Officer
Joined: 05 Sep 2004
Posts: 748
Location: Oregon
|
| Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 3:48 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Tom Delay is the only GOP that has any kahoonas - the rest are nothing more than guttless wonders (coming from a voter that has voted republican for 53 years-Ike was my first)
I really have lost a lot of (maybe all) faith in them. At least the Democrats will stand up and say something even tho what they say are all lies for the most part.
They lie to make the other guy look bad and it works. The Reps lie to make themselves look good and it does not work.
They all lie
_________________
"Si vis pacem, para bellum" |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
GM Strong
Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy
Joined: 18 Sep 2004
Posts: 1579
Location: Penna
|
| Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 5:35 pm Post subject: |
|
|
If polling is dropping, it's because of the spineless waffling couples with tough talk with no action. Do the right thing and the polls will take care of themselves. The poll that counts is the one back in Nov. Why in blazes is there a Republican Majority???
_________________
8th Army Korea 68-69 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
kate
Admin
Joined: 14 May 2004
Posts: 1891
Location: Upstate, New York
|
| Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 5:17 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Quote: | | Spineless Republicans--(Leftist) Democrats Really in Power-- |
So it seems
WND
Democrats against democracy
04/23/2005 | D. James Kennedy
| Quote: | Who's afraid of majority rule? Senate Democrats, it seems. They adamantly oppose the appeals court nominees of President Bush, but don't have the votes to reject them. What to do? Simple. Keep a vote from ever taking place. This so far successful effort by the Senate's 44 Democrats has been used to disenfranchise the majority (and those who elected them) and keep 12 Bush nominees off the bench. Some nominees have been waiting since 2001 for Senate action.
It's not exactly the American way. George Washington told Congress in his 1794 State of the Union address that "the fundamental principle of our Constitution … enjoins that the will of the majority shall prevail." So far, it's the will of the minority that has prevailed in the Democrats' four-year fight to keep certain nominees from a Senate vote.
This has never happened in the Senate's 214-year history. Never has a judicial nominee with majority support been denied an up-or-down vote by the filibuster, which requires 60 votes (Republicans have 55) to shut off debate and take a final vote.
For Democrats, there is no room for compromise. Two years ago, then-assistant Minority Leader Harry Reid was asked if he would agree to limit debate on the nomination of Priscilla Owen to a set time. He repeatedly said no and was finally asked whether "any number of hours would be sufficient for the senator from Nevada." Reid, now Senate minority leader, replied, "[T]here is not a number in the universe that would be sufficient."
Priscilla Owen, by the way, sits on the Texas Supreme Court and has been given the American Bar Association's highest rating, "well qualified." She has been waiting four years for a Senate vote. It may come next week unless Democrats filibuster her again.
It's easy to understand why Senate Democrats are so stubborn. Federal courts are, for the most part, the left's wholly-owned subsidiary. Unaccountable to the American public, courts can do what no legislature would dare.
……………more |
_________________
.
one of..... We The People |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
GM Strong
Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy
Joined: 18 Sep 2004
Posts: 1579
Location: Penna
|
| Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 3:28 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Here we are , barely 100 days out of the the inauguration of a second term President elected by a significant margin, a Senate majority added to by the defeat of an obstructionist like Daschle and a gain of seats in both houses. What is sickening is the Republicans act like they lost. 100 days and they have turned into jellyfish caving to the bully tactics of the left and their own need to be liked by the MSM. They need to be liked by the people that elected them and right now that is going away. To hell with them all is how I feel right now.
_________________
8th Army Korea 68-69 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
SBD
Admiral
Joined: 19 Aug 2004
Posts: 1022
|
| Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 7:06 pm Post subject: |
|
|
They should have changed the rules on the first day of the 109th Congress like the House did. Even though I don't agree with how the House changed the Ethics Committee Rules, it got done. The Senate instead gives the dems time to dig up dirt on enough Republicans to put the rules change in jeopardy. I thought my party stood for something, but I guess I was wrong. Putting poll numbers before the rule change makes the Republican Party, the Party of Hypocrites.
Let's see here, what's more important, if I get reelected or the future of our court system?? If you have to ask that question, you deserve to be thrown out of office!!
SBD |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
GM Strong
Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy
Joined: 18 Sep 2004
Posts: 1579
Location: Penna
|
| Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 8:26 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I again defer to Speaker Thomas B. Reed and Reed's Rules in the 1890s. He nuked the Silent Quorum. This is fully explained in an earlier post back in January or so. read it again Mr. Frist and all the rest.
_________________
8th Army Korea 68-69 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
|
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group
|
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
