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shawa
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 Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 2:13 pm Post subject: US acknowledges torture at Gitmo & Iraq, Afghanistan:UN |
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Here we go again!! Expect the Senators to be decrying THIS all next week!!
I am so sick of this BS. This story comes from Agence-France Presse staff, a great source?? And the U.N., another believable source??
Looks like its just a rehash of the same old charges, but since the document won't be made public until the U.N. hearings in May 2006, the left can blow this all out of proportion!!!
yahoo.com/news
| Quote: | US acknowledges torture at Guantanamo and
Iraq, Afghanistan: UN source
Agence France-Presse, by staff
6/24/05
GENEVA (AFP) - Washington has for the first time acknowledged to the United Nations that prisoners have been tortured at US detention centres in Guantanamo Bay, as well as Afghanistan and Iraq, a UN source said.
The acknowledgement was made in a report submitted to the UN Committee against Torture, said a member of the ten-person panel, speaking on on condition of anonymity.
"They are no longer trying to duck this, and have respected their obligation to inform the UN," the Committee member told AFP.
"They they will have to explain themselves (to the Committee). Nothing should be kept in the dark."
UN sources said it was the first time the world body has received such a frank statement on torture from US authorities.
The Committee, which monitors respect for the Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment, is gathering information from the US ahead of hearings in May 2006.
Signatories of the convention are expected to submit to scrutiny of their implementation of the 1984 convention and to provide information to the Committee.
The document from Washington will not be formally made public until the hearings.
"They haven't avoided anything in their answers, whether concerning prisoners in Iraq, in Afghanistan or Guantanamo, and other accusations of mistreatment and of torture," the Committee member said.
"They said it was a question of isolated cases, that there was nothing systematic and that the guilty were in the process of being punished."
The US report said that those involved were low-ranking members of the military and that their acts were not approved by their superiors, the member added.
The US has faced criticism from UN human rights experts and international groups for mistreatment of detainees -- some of whom died in custody -- in Afghanistan and Iraq, particularly during last year's prisoner abuse scandal surrounding the Abu Ghraib facility there.
Scores of US military personnel have been investigated, and several tried and convicted, for abuse of people detained during the US-led campaign against Islamic terrorist groups.
At the Guantanamo Bay naval base, a US toehold in Cuba where around 520 suspects of some 40 nationalities are held, allegations of torture have combined with other claims of human rights breaches.
The US has faced widespread criticism for keeping the Guantanamo detainees in a "legal black hole," notably for its refusal to grant them prisoner of war status and allegedly sluggish moves to charge or try them.
Washington's report to the Committee reaffirms the US position that the Guantanamo detainees are classed as "enemy combatants," and therefore do not benefit from the POW status set out in the Geneva Conventions, the Committee member said.
Four UN human rights experts on Thursday slammed the United States for stalling on a request to allow visits to terrorism suspects held at the Guantanamo Bay naval base, and said they planned to carry out an indirect probe of conditions there. |
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LewWaters
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Don't tell me, the UN has finally heard about the prosecutions of the few from Abu Ghraib? 
If we aren't careful, they may pass a resolution   
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Uisguex Jack
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Here's a 'What If?" question for you all.
As we all remember the DNC got caught planning a agenda of sabotaging the judicial nominees to try and gain leverage during what was to be the lead up to the last presidential elections..
We all know they cried FOUL when they were exposed, not trying to vet qualified judges but rather pursuing a agenda of trying to sabotage a Presidential election. All of this done under the guise of Congress's responsibility to 'Advise and give Consent' to the Commander in Chief on a wide variety of topics.
As Shawa has stated this looks (this NEW FRENCH) very clearly to be a reprinting of news that is at this point quite old.
What if we learn one of our Senators with close ties to the French is coordinating this effort of bringing up old news as new news. All said and done because they have no input on Leadership or policy whatsoever.
Would such a thing be Legal, would said Senator have to register as a agent of a foreign country....?
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GM Strong
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I guess they are using the Durbin definition of torture. Turn of the airconditioning and turn up the rap.
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