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Rdtf
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 Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:21 pm Post subject: Rice's Entourage Roughed Up |
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Andrea Mitchell may need a leash. She knew better than to do this.
iknow the guy is an evil creep but these people see it as an insult. The reporters were only supposed to be present for the photo op. You watch - she'll get an award.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,163177,00.html
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| Quote: | | When NBC diplomatic reporter Andrea Mitchell tried to ask el-Bashir about his involvement with alleged atrocities, guards grabbed her and muscled her toward the rear of the room. State Department officials shouted at the guards. "Get your hands off her!" Wilkinson demanded. But all the reporters and a camera crew were physically forced out as Rice and el-Bashir watched |
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Uisguex Jack
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Well a interesting story. To play devils advocate though maybe Ms Mitchell could have been more 'Culturally Sensitive' to the culture where she was 'working' as a 'guest'. They tend to treat woman as second and fifth class citizens.
Ms. Mitchell was out of line speaking up as she did. She is only a woman after all.
Maybe a little scholarship on World Cultures could help her more accurately report on what the Current War on Terror is about and how our soldiers are doing a damn good job.
A nice related story just off drudge:
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050721/481/jrl12607211848
Maybe Ms. Mitchell could figure out that equal rights for Woman is one of the things The Al Queda faction finds most offensive about our culture. Of course this ranks after the fact that we are friends to Jews and all Infidels on our own.
So if we get rid of all the Jews.... Each of us convert to Islam and we Subjugate Woman to near slave status.... that would be a compromise Ms Mitchell might wish to offer as a 'olive branch' to the nice boys and girls blowing up innocents from Bali to New York city.\\
Maybe if she had mentioned she was a intimate confidant of the esteemed Ambasador Joe Wilson she would have been treated better?!
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Rdtf
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| Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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Just what I thought - this article says this:
| Quote: | | The reporters were told not to ask questions, over State Department objections |
http://asia.news.yahoo.com/050721/ap/d8bfu3300.html
And yes - she would do good to not upset the locals by learning their culture and abiding by their wishes when she's a guest. But she should know that - afterall, she is the 'Diplomatic Reporter.'  |
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Armybrat/Armymom
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| Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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Ms. Rice is a very smart and tough lady. Too bad Andrea Mitchell doesn't follow suit. Ms. Rice has the position and power to deal with these self proclaimed potentates. Andrea is just one of the press. I guess Andrea forgot where she was. She gets away with her pushiness here in this country but not in the Sudan where as already mentioned "women are 2nd class citizens".
On the other hand, these people were part of the American delegation as a whole group, so how will this story be spinned? |
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SBD
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Did I read a different story??
What happened in Sudan is an outrage. They obstructed this official visit from the beginning by selectively locking out part of the group including the translator Rice needed to have the meeting. They chose their target well though as Mitchel is the wife of Alan Greenspan. You can bet they won't be getting any US funds anytime, ever.
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PhantomSgt
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| Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 7:17 am Post subject: |
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I think Mitchell got off easy. I would have paid good money for a DVD of her buried up to the waist and stoned to death.
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I B Squidly
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| Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 8:06 am Post subject: |
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The underliing chuckle is that none of these MSM types realize that Moslem countries most emphatically do not seperate church and state. Stateside they might have to say "under God", in the middle east they get stoned. Go figure!
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Rdtf
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| Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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| SBD wrote: | Did I read a different story??
What happened in Sudan is an outrage. They obstructed this official visit from the beginning by selectively locking out part of the group including the translator Rice needed to have the meeting. They chose their target well though as Mitchel is the wife of Alan Greenspan. You can bet they won't be getting any US funds anytime, ever.
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 Singled out? It doesn't matter why we were there - Mitchell didn't follow their rules, and that's the first rule of diplomacy. They told her not to ask questions, and almost didn't allow them in in the first place. I am sure Rice will think again when chooses what reporters to allow to follow her into such a meeting. I don't care whether you like the country and it's practices or not, we were there as their guests. Sure, don't rough people up, but they caused the incident. |
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Ohio Voter
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I don't think your comment is funny.
| PhantomSgt wrote: | I think Mitchell got off easy. I would have paid good money for a DVD of her buried up to the waist and stoned to death.
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becca1223
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Mitchell Angry After Sudan Incident
| Quote: | | "It makes me even more determined when dictators and alleged war criminals are not held to account," she said. "If our government is going to establish a relationship and push for a new beginning as Sudan reforms itself, they have to live up to international standards. A free press is part of that process." |
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050721/ap_en_tv/tv_nbc_mitchell_1
Andrea Mitchell: clueless |
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SBD
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| Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | "It makes me very angry to be sitting there with their president and have this happen," she said. "They have no right to push and shove." |
| Quote: | State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said the Sudanese foreign minister responded to Rice's demand for an apology by telephoning her aboard the plane to express regret for the incidents at the ultra-high-security residence of Sudanese President Omar el-Bashir.
Twice, Sudanese guards' hostility toward members of Rice's entourage devolved into shouts and shoving.
As Rice's motorcade arrived at the residence, armed guards blocked three vehicles from entering, including those carrying Rice's interpreter and other aides who were supposed to attend her meeting with el-Bashir. |
Nice way to treat your guests, but what else should be expected from a country that murders Christians!!
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PhantomSgt
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| Ohio Voter wrote: | I don't think your comment is funny.
| PhantomSgt wrote: | I think Mitchell got off easy. I would have paid good money for a DVD of her buried up to the waist and stoned to death.
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It wasn't meant to be funny Voter.
The wife of Greenspan is well know for her views against the war and our American Jihad (Holy Struggle) against radical Muslims. She has undermined our efforts every step of the way with her liberal bias at the most liberal network.
I think it is ironic that she just got a small taste of what it is like to be an woman in a radical Muslim country. If this incident had happened in Iran Ms. Mitchell would have been hauled off and never seen again. Mouthy women are just hung or stoned to death after a long and harsh torture.
Read some of the texts from her speaking tours and you might join me.
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Ohio Voter
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Ok so if it wasn't meant to be funny you really would like to see Mitchell stoned to death? Of course you have a right to express yourself any way you want. As do I. That kind of talk doesn't reflect well on those of us who share your political position. And it smacks of an extremist equal to the terrorists, IMHO.
| PhantomSgt wrote: | | Ohio Voter wrote: | I don't think your comment is funny.
| PhantomSgt wrote: | I think Mitchell got off easy. I would have paid good money for a DVD of her buried up to the waist and stoned to death.
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It wasn't meant to be funny Voter.
The wife of Greenspan is well know for her views against the war and our American Jihad (Holy Struggle) against radical Muslims. She has undermined our efforts every step of the way with her liberal bias at the most liberal network.
I think it is ironic that she just got a small taste of what it is like to be an woman in a radical Muslim country. If this incident had happened in Iran Ms. Mitchell would have been hauled off and never seen again. Mouthy women are just hung or stoned to death after a long and harsh torture.
Read some of the texts from her speaking tours and you might join me.
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