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Tanya
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 Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 4:01 pm Post subject: Cathernine Herridge To Interview Member Of ABLE DANGER Tonig |
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Cathernine Herridge To Interview Member Of ABLE DANGER Tonight
Just a heads up!
From the FR site:
"Tony Snow just reported on his show that at 7 pm Eastern. Fox New's Catherine Herridge has an exclusive interview with one of the members of ABLE DANGER.
Curt Weldon identified him as a Lt Col. and his first name, Tony.
According to Weldon he tried three times to tell the committee about the information from ABLE DANGER"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1464369/posts |
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Rdtf
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| Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1464394/posts
| Quote: | Able Danger Witnesses to Go Public
NewsMax.com ^ | Aug. 16, 2005 | Carl Limbacher
Posted on 08/16/2005 9:05:40 AM PDT by Carl/NewsMax
Rep. Curt Weldon said Monday that one or more members of an elite team of military intelligence officers who had identified al Qaeda hijacker Mohamed Atta as a terrorist threat two years before he led the 9/11 attacks are prepared to go public.
"I can guarantee you that you will be able to have one on your show," Weldon told ABC Radio host Sean Hannity. "You might want to go with your TV show with this, because it will be a major story," the Pennsylvania Republican urged. "And you can interview him directly."
"When the American people see the credibility of this guy and what he's done for our country, along with the others, you become convinced that we have some major problems here," Weldon said.
He also addressed questions that arose over the weekend about whether the claims of the team, code named Able Danger, amounted to "much ado about nothing."
"Like any patriotic American, if I'm confronted with career senior military intelligence officials who have information that they felt the 9/11 Commission should have looked at, because it directly impacted the events leading up to the attack against us, then I would want that to be taken seriously."
The House Armed Services Committee member also revealed that an FBI witness has confirmed attempts by the Able Danger team to share information about Atta.
"We even now have located the FBI liaison officer who they talked to about setting up the meetings [with the FBI]," he told Hannity. "That person acknowledged that there was a request made to formally bring the FBI in.
"But they couldn't do it because they were told, no," he explained.
Weldon confirmed a report in Sunday's Bergen Record which revealed that the intelligence team had pinpointed Atta's whereabouts for an entire year before the attacks, while he lived at a Wayne, New Jersey motel and met with other members of the hijack team.
The House Republican indicated he was aware that the Able Danger revelations could have severe political consequences, but he said that the full story was too important to keep from the American people. "If people get embarrassed along the way, I'm sorry for that," he said. "But we're talking about the deaths of 3,000 Americans here."
He remains concerned, however, that the Able Danger witnesses may be subject to retribution, explaining, "I've got to protect their careers and I've got to protect their reputations . . . Unfortunately I've seen some brave Americans who've simply told the truth, who bureaucrats, for one reason or another, want to go after."
"I want to make sure - and get a commitment - that [the Able Danger whistleblowers] will not have their careers ruined," he said. |
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becca1223
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| Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks, Tanya!!!!  This is a MUST WATCH! |
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MrJapan
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| Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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| becca1223 wrote: | | Thanks, Tanya!!!! This is a MUST WATCH! |
Wish I could see it :/ |
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becca1223
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| Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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| MrJapan wrote: | | Wish I could see it :/ |
Don't worry, MJ. You've got us on here to report back! |
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Rdtf
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| Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 1:14 am Post subject: |
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| Was a bit disappointing. |
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becca1223
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| Quote: | Agent Defends Military Unit's Data on 9/11 Hijackers
Tuesday, August 16, 2005
WASHINGTON Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer (search), a military intelligence specialist who worked on a secret pre-Sept. 11 investigative unit called Able Danger (search), has gone on the record, telling FOX News that he personally briefed staffers with the Sept. 11 commission in October 2003 about Mohamed Atta.
A statement from the commission formally known as the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States (search) said that three staffers attended the meeting, but none, including Executive Director Phil Zelicow, remembers Shaffer mentioning Atta.
Still, the intelligence agent is standing by his claim that he told them that the lead hijacker in the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks had been identified in the summer of 2000 as an Al Qaeda operative living in the United States.
"What we talked about to the 9/11 commission was we found that these guys matched a pattern, a pattern, which in this case with Atta and the other four terrorists, matched the Brooklyn location," Shaffer said in his first television interview.
He said the intelligence unit used algorithms based on many items of information that popped out patterns that linked individuals to a group or location. The other three terrorists linked were Khalid al-Mihdhar, Nawaf al-Hazmi and Marwan al-Shehhi.
Shaffer's briefing with the staffers took place in Bagram, Afghanistan. A Sept. 11 commission spokesman said the commission made two broad requests to the Pentagon for information relating to Able Danger, but received nothing to back up Shaffer's claim.
"None of the documents turned over to the commission mention Mohamed Atta or any of the other future hijackers," the spokesman said. Shaffer said the commission never received the whole story.
"I'm told confidently by the person who moved the material over, that the 9/11 commission received two briefcase-sized containers of documents. I can tell you for a fact that would not be one-twentieth of the information that Able Danger consisted of during the time we spent" investigating, Shaffer said.
Shaffer said in the late summer of 2000, he tried three times to set up meetings between the FBI's Washington field office and officials with Able Danger who believed the information about Atta should be shared with domestic law enforcement.
Michael Mason, head of the FBI field office, said it's possible the meetings were arranged, but that cannot be verified by any means.
It is "premature at best to suggest that the information gathered at such a meeting would have prevented the events of 9/11," Mason added.
Shaffer said each of the meetings was cancelled on short notice by members of the special operations command.
"On these occasions when we had set up these meetings between the FBI and special operations command, special operations command pulled out of all three. They decided not to show up," he said.
Shaffer said the meetings were canceled for a variety of reasons, including concern about the military investigating individuals who were in this country legally. Some of the hijackers had valid visas. They also were concerned that if any fallout came from the FBI's activities, the special operations people feared they would take the hit.
According to two sources, Able Danger was set up in the late 1990s to track Usama bin Laden's terror network worldwide. Shaffer said its omission from the final Sept. 11 commission report makes it a "partial record."
"Leaving out a project targeting Al Qaeda as a global threat a year before we're attacked by Al Qaeda is equivalent to having an investigation into Pearl Harbor and leaving, somehow, out the Japanese," Shaffer said.
FOX News has learned that Shaffer's security clearance was suspended last year over a disputed phone bill and allegations that he had not gone through the proper chain of command to obtain an award for Able Danger. Shaffer's lawyer told FOX News that no formal action has ever been taken against Shaffer and since then he was promoted by the Army to lieutenant colonel.
A military spokesman told FOX News that the Pentagon wants more clarity on the issue and continues to interview those involved. Shaffer said he has now spoken with senior defense officials.
FOX News' Catherine Herridge contributed to this report.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,165948,00.html |
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SOLTC
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I'm not sure from the published information whether "Able Danger" is a unit, an operation, or codeword-protected information compartment.
I think I know what unit this is.
For the origins of this unit see:
Lenahan, Rod, Crippled Eagle: A Historical Perspective of U. S. Special Operations, 1976-1996 (Narwhal Press, 1998) For a history up to about 1990 see:
Richelson, Jeffrey T. 'Truth Conquers All Chains': The U.S. Army Intelligence Support Activity, 1981-1989." International Journal of Intelligence and Counterintelligence 12, no. 2 (Summer 1999): 168-200.
Also, see Sean D. Naylor's Article Rooting Out The Enemy (Army Times, October, 8, 2001, pp. 10-11) which references "The Army of Virginia".
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see Sean D. Naylor's book Not a Good Day to Die (Berkley, 2005).
Two articles which mention this unit - Seymour M. Hersh The Coming Wars & William M. Arkin The Secret War - both confuse the unit with another long-since-defunct Army unit which ran the Yellow Fruit operation in Central America. They take some of their background information from Secret Warriors by Steven Emerson (1988) & Best Laid Plans by David C. Martin & John Walcott (1988) which cover much of the same ground. Both of these books are well written, but they deal with highly classified (at that time) subjects. Neither author really understood where the units they talk about fit in the SOF structure. In one case they did a great disservice to an outstanding officer.
The unit in question does many things beside electronic intelligence and under many names. It has proved itself over and over since 1980. |
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Tanya
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Rdtf
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| Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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he is on John Gibson RIGHT NOW
this guy is impressive |
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BuffaloJack
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I thought he was impressive too.
He ain't Ollie North yet, but he comes across as knowledgeable, in control, and most important, believable.
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Rdtf
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| Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 2:28 am Post subject: |
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I missed it but tonight on hannity he mentioned something new -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1466331/posts?page=42#42
| Quote: | Tonight Shaffer, with his usual concise and direct style, gave us new tidbits to ponder.
In response to Hannity's question regarding how and why the infomation was not passed along Shaffer offered, "A two star general repremanded him in his strenuous insistance that the information regarding Atta and three others should be passed to the FBI. He was blocked and blocked completly by this two star who went so far as to upbraid him and remind him he was a general and Shaffer was not. "
This is one more significan blow to the criminal actions of the 9/11 CYA commission and perhaps a certain general. I can't wait till his name comes out. Perhaps he is no longer in the chain of command as sure he would still be working to block this coming out. |
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shawa
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| Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 5:12 am Post subject: |
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Last Monday I posted on another thread Rep. Curt Weldon's speech on the floor of the House of Representatives on
May 21, 2002 .
This speech was 8 months after the 911 attacks, and he was giving the history of how Able Danger developed from an existing intelligence program back in the 90's. A very interesting read!!
In this speech Weldon is expressing his frustration that he had been pushing the Able Danger capability since 1997 when he became aware of it.
He introduces THE CHART showing the al Qaida network including 3 of the leaders of the 911 attacks.
This chart was made by the Able Danger Team to be presented to the BRASS in 1999 in hopes of getting the FBI to break this Qaida cell which Able Danger had uncovered.
And he is mad that General Shelton of the Joint Chiefs did not get the full briefing that he was supposed to.
This may explain why when Gen. Shelton was asked last week about Able Danger, he replied "ABLE WHO?"
Read it all and you can understand why Weldon and Shaffer were ON FIRE about this at: http://www.swiftvets.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=20509
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Rdtf
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| Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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Also see this article from the WaPo that I posted -
http://www.swiftvets.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=20564
| Quote: | | Phillpott told the Sept. 11 panel in July 2004 that he recalled seeing Atta's name briefly on an Able Danger chart in spring 2000, which was before Atta obtained a visa and entered the United States. The commission, noting a lack of supporting evidence, said Phillpott's account "was not sufficiently reliable to warrant revision of the report or further investigation." |
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Rdtf
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| Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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| FYI Lt Col Shaffer is going to be on Dayside on Fox in a few minutes |
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