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Schadow
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 Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 5:04 pm Post subject: No, Mrs. C., what ARE you talking about? |
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| Quote: | | New York Sen. Hillary Clinton, blasting the Bush administration during a Martin Luther King Jr. Day event in Harlem Monday, compared the Republican-controlled House of Representatives to a plantation where dissent is not tolerated. In her scathing critique, Clinton, who very well may be running for the presidency in 2008, said the House "has been run like a plantation, and you know what I'm talking about. It has been run in a way so that nobody with a contrary view has had a chance to present legislation, to make an argument, to be heard." . . . |
http://www.diversityinc.com/members/login.cfm?hpage=19308.cfm&CFID=874231&CFTOKEN=93428686
So now, race-baiting is a fixture of her repertoire.
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Doll
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 7:41 pm Post subject: Re: No, Mrs. C., what ARE you talking about? |
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| Schadow wrote: | | Quote: | | New York Sen. Hillary Clinton, blasting the Bush administration during a Martin Luther King Jr. Day event in Harlem Monday, compared the Republican-controlled House of Representatives to a plantation where dissent is not tolerated. In her scathing critique, Clinton, who very well may be running for the presidency in 2008, said the House "has been run like a plantation, and you know what I'm talking about. It has been run in a way so that nobody with a contrary view has had a chance to present legislation, to make an argument, to be heard." . . . |
http://www.diversityinc.com/members/login.cfm?hpage=19308.cfm&CFID=874231&CFTOKEN=93428686
So now, race-baiting is a fixture of her repertoire.
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I just wrote a piece on this sickening rhetoric today. I called it "Plantation" and "Chocolate", What?. hehe....what a bunch of MOONBATS! 
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Yes, and she was giving a political speach in a church. I wonder if the
IRS lets them keep their tax free status.
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| I think that law only is for republicans. |
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GM Strong
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It takes a huge dose of Arrogance and Chutzpah for a Senator to be so critical as to insult the Legislative body of the citizenry. Where does Hildebeast and now Barak Osama Obama Obasma Baraka (ask Ted) get the idea they can show this level of disdain.
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Schadow
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| Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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| GM Strong wrote: | | It takes a huge dose of Arrogance and CHutzpah for a Seantor to be so critical as to insult the Legislative boby of the citizenry. Where does Hildebeast and now Barak Osama Obama Obasma Baraka (ask Ted) get the idea they can show this level of disdain. |
It's just the latest manifestation of the Democrats' view that the natural order of things is for them to run the country and promote their socialist agenda. Unfortunately, we're in a war for survival and they are totally incapable of dealing with that. I just hope the voters realize that in November.
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GM Strong
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Schadow wrote: | | GM Strong wrote: | | It takes a huge dose of Arrogance and CHutzpah for a Seantor to be so critical as to insult the Legislative boby of the citizenry. Where does Hildebeast and now Barak Osama Obama Obasma Baraka (ask Ted) get the idea they can show this level of disdain. |
It's just the latest manifestation of the Democrats' view that the natural order of things is for them to run the country and promote their socialist agenda. Unfortunately, we're in a war for survival and they are totally incapable of dealing with that. I just hope the voters realize that in November.
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Sorry Schadow to bring up the point... but Democrat doesn't necessarily mean 'Liberal' to an extent...
Many posters here, I'm sure you know, are Democrats (myself being Republican)... I'm not trying to pick a fight here at all, but trying to help you see there can be major differences between DEM-REP and LIB-CONS...
I'm sure you already know that and slipped, like we all do (including me daily)... but I wanted to make sure.
If my estimates are right.... this webpage/site is split about 50/50, which should say a lot about the voting public, even if the biased MSM won't admit it >.<
You still have my greatest respect, so please don't get me wrong... You have brought much good information and I don't want it to stop coming since this is my main source for the most honest international news!
As a matter of fact, I learned something I didn't know (my misconception) about Hawaii yesterday... There is a volunteer Hawaiian @ 1 of the schools I work at.. we got into a discussion about 'American Imperialism'.
(Of course I stereotyped her for being Democrat, but she is actually very open minded, although she is pissed about USA taking the monarchy from Hawaii, which I can't understand until I study it more....) She had some interesting points
Happy New Year (19 days late... gomenne! (means: I am sorry)) |
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MrJapan
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| Sorry to post 2 in a row... but I also wated to show that we (CONS) are also open minded and we DO listen to what other people say, unlike the LIBS... |
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sixdogteam
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Mr. Japan writes: "Sorry Schadow to bring up the point... but Democrat doesn't necessarily mean 'Liberal' to an extent..."
Actually, it does. This is not the 1960's. The parties have polarized. If one is a liberal/socialist one has to allign oneself with the democrats. But in doing so you are also alligning yourself with the Anti-Christian, Pro Homosexuality, Anti-military, Pro immorality, Pro murdering of babies, Pro treason against our country party. Quite a dillemma for the libs, eh? I look for there to be a split or a takeover of this morally bankrupt group of opportunists that call themselves the democrat party. Don't get me wrong, the Republicans are no prize either, but at least they come down of the right (Pro AMerica, Pro Morality, Pr0-Constitution) side most of the time...
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Schadow
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| MrJapan wrote: | | .....I also wated to show that we (CONS) are also open minded and we DO listen to what other people say, unlike the LIBS... |
No need to apologize. You are right in objecting to painting all persons in one political party or the other as being 'extreme'. My congressman, Bud Cramer, for instance, is a Democrat who has had his position for untold years and quietly does the business of representing our area without the trappings of a loud-mouth liberal.
The problem, of course, is that he is a Democrat and, as such, forms part of a body which might regain control of the Congress through sheer numbers. And the leadership of that party is overwhelmingly liberal. Harry Reid: "Twenty minutes ago, we killed the Patriot Act (applause)". Nancy Pelosi: (too many asinine comments to quote). These are the 'leaders' of the Senate and House minorities who dictate how their members vote.
If the Democrats regain control of the Congress, there is no doubt in my mind that Rep. John Conyers (D-Michigan), the new chair of the House Judiciary Committee, would immediately initiate hearings to draw up articles of impeachment against the President. The result would be disastrous for our continued prosecution of the war on terror and eliminate any progress on the domestic agenda, including the permanence of tax cuts.
OK, I'm a pessimist. But as long as Democrats look to the extreme liberal wing of their party for leadership, I believe our country is in danger.
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Deuce
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| sixdogteam wrote: |
... This is not the 1960's. The parties have polarized. If one is a liberal/socialist one has to allign oneself with the democrats. But in doing so you are also alligning yourself with the Anti-Christian, Pro Homosexuality, Anti-military, Pro immorality, Pro murdering of babies, Pro treason against our country party. Quite a dillemma for the libs, eh? I look for there to be a split or a takeover of this morally bankrupt group of opportunists that call themselves the democrat party. Don't get me wrong, the Republicans are no prize either, but at least they come down of the right (Pro AMerica, Pro Morality, Pr0-Constitution) side most of the time... |
What you said....
and well said by the way...
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Schadow
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Here are some snips from an article by Shelby Steele in WSJ Opinion Journal, 23 January 2006. Steele is a research fellow at the Hoover Institution.
| Quote: | Hillary's Plantation
Hillary Clinton reveals her fear of Condi Rice.
When political pandering goes awry, it calls you a name. On an emotional level, many blacks will hear Hillary's remark as follows: "I say Republicans run the House like a plantation because I am speaking to Negroes--the wretched of the earth, a slave people--who will surely know all about plantations." Is this a tin ear or a Freudian slip, blacks will wonder? Does she really see us as she projects us--as a people so backward that our support can be won with a simple plantation reference, and the implication that Republicans are racist? Quite possibly so, since no apology has been forthcoming.
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Mrs. Clinton came to Al Sharpton's MLK celebration looking for an easy harvest of black votes. And she knew the drill--white liberals and Dems whistle for the black vote by pandering to the black sense of grievance. Once positioned as the white champions of this grievance, they actually turn black resentment into white liberal power. Today, Democrats cannot be competitive without this alchemy. So Mrs. Clinton's real insult to blacks--one far uglier than her plantation metaphor--is to value them only for their sense of grievance.
Mrs. Clinton's husband was a master of this alchemy, and his presidency also illustrated its greatest advantage. Once black grievance is morphed into liberal power, it need never be honored. President Clinton notoriously felt black pain, won the black vote, and then rewarded blacks with the cold shower of welfare reform. And here, now, is Mrs. Clinton sidling up to the trough of black grievance, eyes wide in expectation, but also a tad contemptuous. It is hard to fully respect one's suckers. |
Full Article Here
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| sixdogteam wrote: | Mr. Japan writes: "Sorry Schadow to bring up the point... but Democrat doesn't necessarily mean 'Liberal' to an extent..."
Actually, it does. This is not the 1960's. The parties have polarized. If one is a liberal/socialist one has to allign oneself with the democrats. But in doing so you are also alligning yourself with the Anti-Christian, Pro Homosexuality, Anti-military, Pro immorality, Pro murdering of babies, Pro treason against our country party. Quite a dillemma for the libs, eh? I look for there to be a split or a takeover of this morally bankrupt group of opportunists that call themselves the democrat party. Don't get me wrong, the Republicans are no prize either, but at least they come down of the right (Pro AMerica, Pro Morality, Pr0-Constitution) side most of the time... |
I am old enough to remember 30 years ago when republicans were almost non-existent in Texas and there were two kinds of democrats, liberals and conservatives. I’m sure my parents voted democrat most of the time and I know my in-laws did and still do. My mother- in-law is the quintessential “yellow dog democrat”. Touchy subject!
Today, in Johnson County, there is only one democrat holding public office. Several of our elected officials are former democrats. A liberal Texas democrat of thirty years ago would not even be allowed in the doors of the 2004 Democratic National Convention. He would be an outcast in his own party. Ask Zell Miller.
How did it get this way? When did the party of FDR, JFK, and Harry Truman pack up and leave Texas? How did the measure of whether or not you were a democrat come down to the single “litmus test” of where you stood on abortion? How did democrats in this country come to hate our president so much that they let the likes of Michael Moore take over their party? In time of war, does political power mean more to democrats than having a civil election process that airs honest differences without degenerating into the mud slinging slime fest that the last election was?
I’m not going to pull any punches here. 2004 was the nastiest election in my memory. It was so nasty that we couldn't hear about the issues that confronted us. However, it didn’t become that way overnight. It’s been going on for a long time and I’m going to lay it squarely at the feet of the Democratic Party! Here’s why.
Ted Kennedy says the Iraq War “was made up in Texas” for political gain. House minority leader Nancy Pelosi calls the President “an incompetent leader” with “ no judgment” who “has on his shoulders the deaths of many more troops.” Introducing Kerry, Baltimore Mayor Martin O’Malley says the Bush administration worries him more than Al Qaeda does. Howard Dean advanced the theory that President Bush had advance knowledge of the 911 attacks. Former Vice President Al Gore screamed that President Bush “betrayed this country”. Gore also called the military’s prison system “Bush’s gulag”. Kerry’s national security advisor Rand Beers said the President under funds homeland security because the most targeted areas are in democratic states. And Democratic Party chairman Terry McAuliffe said the President was AWOL from the National Guard.
On a more direct candidate-to-candidate basis, John Kerry attacked President Bush’s National Guard service three times in one interview. He said the President “can’t even answer whether or not he showed up for duty in the National Guard”; “can’t even show or prove that he showed up for duty in the National Guard”; and “has yet to explain to America whether or not, and tell the truth, about whether he showed up for duty.” Kerry also accused President Bush of placing a “target” on the backs of U.S. troops
In addition to the yelps and squeals of the baying jackals in politics, wealthy democrats have given millions to so called 527 organizations for advertising. They spent over $70 million running ads denigrating George Bush in one fashion or another up to and including comparing him to Adolph Hitler. John Kerry never got around to denouncing that particular ad. Multi billionaire George Soros pledged his entire fortune to ensure that Bush would be defeated. Michael Moore, the new mouthpiece for the Democratic Party, said the President “deserted” from the National Guard. Kerry called a group of “celebrities” the “heart and soul” of America after they called President Bush a “cheap thug who sacrifices our young”.
Underneath it all was the steady drumbeat of liar, liar, liar. George Bush is a liar! He’s lying! The President is lying. Proof isn’t necessary but the beat goes on. Liar, liar, liar. George Bush is a liar. The feeling by democrats is that, if they say it enough, people will eventually begin to believe it. Sadly, for those not paying attention, this tactic works.
On the republican side, the rhetoric was muted. Did they go after John Kerry? You bet they did! The record of the President and the voting record of a Senator are and should be fair game. They attacked Kerry’s voting record in the Senate. Each time they did, Kerry squealed that they were attacking his patriotism and reminded us all that he was a Vietnam veteran. They attacked his plans for the future when they could find out what they were. No one in the republican campaign effort attacked Kerry’s military service, called him a traitor, or attacked his patriotism.
One lone anti-Kerry 527, the Swiftboat Veterans for Truth, attacked Kerry’s military service, his anti-war activities and their effects on Vietnam veterans and POW’s. He had made his Vietnam service the centerpiece of his campaign instead of his twenty years in the Senate. With comparatively very litte money spent in advertising, they hit Kerry where he lived and turned his campaign on its ear. Kerry’s response was not to meet them head on. Instead we heard the same old drumbeat of liars, liars, liars. The Swiftees are liars. No rebuttal or proof. Just the drumbeat. Liars, liars, liars.
At the end of the campaign Kerry and his advisors decided that they could only catch up in the polls if they went negative. So they were going to stop playing nice. I can only imagine what that meant!
Yes I long for the old Democratic Party. I long for the party that did not believe that profane “celebrities” are the “heart and soul” of America; the one that believed in supporting their president in time of war. We need a strong democrat party that loves America. Sadly, I believe it is gone forever.
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Schadow
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| Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:15 am Post subject: |
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| carpro wrote: | | .....In time of war, does political power mean more to democrats than having a civil election process that airs honest differences without degenerating into the mud slinging slime fest that the last election was?..... |
I'm afraid that the answer to your question is, sadly, yes. The Democrats have indeed slowly rotted away into a collective mental disturbance, losing any credibility in the process.
It's a shame because I strongly believe that there should be two relatively strong political parties representing the people of this country. There are tens of millions of Democrats who wish for national political leadership they can be loyal to. Right now they have no home.
And without rational opposition, who knows what might happen to the Republican party? Some fear it's happening already.
That was a great piece of writing, Carpro. 
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