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jalexson
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 Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 2:29 am Post subject: What would Van O'Dell have said? |
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What would Van O'Dell have said if he had been allowed to speak on Hannity and Colmes Aug. 5? He mentioned the other men who were pulled out of the water in addition to Rassman, but wasn't allowed to continue by the dimwit female substituting for Colmes.
Also why was Rassman rescued from the bow? It would seem to me that the best way to rescue someone would be to come along side so that two men on what I believe is called the aft deck could pull him out.
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ASPB
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| Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 3:16 am Post subject: Re: What would Van O'Dell have said? |
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| jalexson wrote: | What would Van O'Dell have said if he had been allowed to speak on Hannity and Colmes Aug. 5? He mentioned the other men who were pulled out of the water in addition to Rassman, but wasn't allowed to continue by the dimwit female substituting for Colmes.
Also why was Rassman rescued from the bow? It would seem to me that the best way to rescue someone would be to come along side so that two men on what I believe is called the aft deck could pull him out. |
Jaxelson,
Actually you're wrong for a Swift Boat. The Cox'n or (Boat Driver) can't see what's alongside or abaft (to the rear of) the beam of the boat.
Although the freeboard was higher forward, Swifts carried a cargo (climbing) net hung over the bow (pointy end) of the boat specifically designed to recover men in the water in the view of the Cox'n (boat driver). The SOP was to do recoveries over the bow.
You can see pictures of recovery net equipped PCF's in a few threads posted here by Rbshirley or you can go to Bob's site at www.pcf45.com.
The best site on the web about Swifts.
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JimRobson
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| Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 3:16 am Post subject: |
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I can't comment on the Hannity show, but I do know that you don't want to get a person too close to the screws of these boats. If I go overboard, I want to be near the bow.
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rbshirley
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| Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 3:56 am Post subject: |
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| JimRobson wrote: | | If I go overboard, I want to be near the bow. |
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Rumble. Rumble. Roar. Roar. Squeek. Screech. Stop.
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OK. Both throttles to neutral. Boat rocking in the after swell.
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All hands over the side with knives to clear the screws.
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Stupid Swift Boats. Why do they always have to run over MY fish nets!!
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Oops. Xin Loi. Sri 'bout dat. Another day winning the hearts and minds .....
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Ya jest gotta be real kerful when ya get close to tha biz end o'those twin jimmies
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................ Have Brasso. Will Shine. Rest in peace John Branca .............
And even Kerry couldn't exaggerate all "man overboard drills" into bronzes
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ASPB
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| Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 4:00 am Post subject: |
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That's one hell of a spit-shined screw job Bob! I thought that was a job for the EN3 not for the LT! 
Tom
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rbshirley
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| Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 4:11 am Post subject: |
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| ASPB wrote: | | That's one hell of a spit-shined screw job |
Yes. John Branca was an engineman and kept the memorial Swift
at the Vietnam Unit Memorial in NAB Coronado in "E" condition
................... http://www.vummf.org/photos.htm .....................
We will all miss his bright outlook on life and tours thru the boat.
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redhawk34
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| Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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Pointy end? Y'all's boat had a pointy end?
My Mike-8 didn't have no pointy end.
I feel deprived.
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ASPB
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| redhawk34 wrote: | Pointy end? Y'all's boat had a pointy end?
My Mike-8 didn't have no pointy end.
I feel deprived.
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For you then we'll call it the floppy end! How's that?
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rbshirley
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| redhawk34 wrote: | Pointy end? Y'all's boat had a pointy end?
My Mike-8 didn't have no pointy end.
I feel deprived. |
Check out the following web page. Halfway down.
............ "Beans, Bullets and Bravery" ...............
http://pcf45.com/cuaviet/cuaviet.html#beans
But if'n you have PTSD, turn down your speakers
"I don't know what logistics is. But I need lots of it"
--- Ernest King, CNO 1942-46
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redhawk34
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There is a Mikeboat there, over the caption "Replinishing fuel bunkers at Dong Ha". The boat they identify as an LCM is in fact an LCU.
We were used tactically, as well as logistically. Even my Mike-8 at the small end of the logistic scale could carry a payload which would require 26 deuce and a half trucks.
Hate to be smug, but of all the boats on this forum, only my Mike-8 is still in daily use, both with the Army and the Navy. Some must be nearly 60 years old. They're sorta like George Washington's original hatchet in the Smithsonian, it's on its third head and its sixth handle, but it's the original hatchet.
Andy Higgins made a hellofa boat.
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rbshirley
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| Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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| redhawk34 wrote: | Hate to be smug, but of all the boats on this forum, only my
Mike-8 is still in daily use, both with the Army and the Navy.
Andy Higgins made a hellofa boat. |
As I mentioned to Tom {ASPB} unit pride is absolutely great.
And the affection sailors have for their craft is unsurpassed.
Yours for the Mike boats, Tom's for the Riverines, and Swifties ... well
Hate to be smug, but two Swift Boats are still going on daily patrols
for the Armed Forces of Malta. Thirty-five years of continous service.
Same engines. Same equipment. Despite a few glitches along the way
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..... Sewart Seacraft (not too far from Higgins) made a hellofa boat .....
PS: The identification of the LCU came from the NSA Da Nang Cruise Book
..... Wadda ya 'spect from an LT tin can swift sailor? All gators look alike
{Very big GRIN} ..... Bob S
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