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[ASPB]

Acksiom,

Rather that debating with some who may be opposed to our efforts for partisan reasons I'd suggest you do two things.

Call as loudly as you can for Mr Kerry to release "all" of his service records. The President has already done so.

Next week, buy a copy of "Unfit for Duty". Read our case, study wintersoldier.com , and come back here to resolve unanswered questions. We'll do all we can to answer your remaining questions.

And no...I did not serve with John Kerry but I had a virtually identical job doing the same thing for a full year at the same time as Kerry 100 miles from where he was and at times in the same area of operations.

I've studied his record in Vietnam and his anti-war activities extensively (800 hours of research), talked to and listened to his peers and superiors from Nam, and conclude that they are honorable men telling the truth.

So help me God!
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[stupson]

I'm going to 'splain a couple of things to you, Slick:

1. You have not earned the privilege of addressing me by my first name. I am not a member of your playground group.
2. You have not earned the right to tell me what to reread, when to rest or when to "move on."
3. My Service is NOT over, nor will it ever be. I took an oath about 40 years ago "To not lie, cheat, steal, nor tolerate anyone else who does." Nothing has changed for me and it never will. Such concepts remain totally wasted on the likes of you and Kerry.
4. My Service absolutely gives me the right to see a spade as a spade and make an honest call. If another's record is a hoax, I don't give a damn how it makes me look. And you have not remotely earned the right to sit in judgement of me.
5. I don't need or want you telling me to be proud of Vietnam; you have not earned that right.
6. In that you failed to arm yourself with the facts I pointed you to, you have have demonstrated your intellectual laziness and have voluntarily chosen to remain an ignoramous.

"OUT"

[DonnaA2Z]

The ad didn't phase me in the least. I mean, no surprise there.

I think what we should concentrate on is which person, Bush or Kerry, will do the best thing for the United States... Which will do the work for the people of this country.

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Donna, this site is about if John F. Kerry is or isn't qualified to be the next President and CIC of the United States. No Bush Bashing Please!

Take Care,
Donna

[prdCOmom]

[Acksiom]

[Acksiom]

[prdCOmom]

[karlaerin]

[recongrunt]

To vote for John Kerry will cast a persons position on America. Kerry may have won a medal or two but any medal and a $1.25 will buy a cup of coffee. He was a short time warrior who then stepped over to the other side. I served 19 months in Vietnam in the Marines and I never witnessed anything close to what Kerry claims. I spent many,many hours in the bush and although all of us were frustrated with the way things were going I witnessed only brave young men fighting a very difficult war. The difficulties were only enhanced by John Kerry and his cohorts. I don't know how many lies he has told to get where he is, but I do know this, if he actually ends up reporting for duty again I'm going AWOL to Hanoi and see if I can discover his secrets of "success." For now I will take Genral Giaps words below as gospel because I respect him a lot more than I do John Kerry.

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In his book, Giap clearly indicated that NVA troops were without sufficient supplies, and had been continually defeated time and again.

By 1968, NVA morale was at it's lowest point ever. The plans for "Tet" '68 was their last desperate attempt to achieve a success, in an effort to boost the NVA morale. When it was over, General Giap and the NVA viewed the Tet '68 offensive as a failure, they were on their knees and had prepared to negotiate a surrender.

At that time, there were fewer than 10,000 U.S. casualties, the Vietnam War was about to end, as the NVA was prepared to accept their defeat. Then, they heard Walter Cronkite (former CBS News anchor and correspondent) on TV proclaiming the success of the Tet '68 offensive by the communist NVA. They were completely and totally amazed at hearing that the US Embassy had been overrun. In reality, The NVA had not gained access to the Embassy--there were some VC who had been killed on the grassy lawn, but they hadn't gained access. Further reports indicated the riots and protesting on the streets of America.

According to Giap, these distorted reports were inspirational to the NVA. They changed their plans from a negotiated surrender and decided instead, they only needed to persevere for one more hour, day, week, month, eventually the protesters in American would help them to achieve a victory they knew they could not win on the battlefield. Remember, this decision was made at a time when the U.S. casualties were fewer than 10,000, at the end of 1967, beginning of 1968.

Giap said, adding thanks for the anti-war movement, "During the Vietnam War the American people supported Vietnam. I thank the American people for that."

John Kerry don't forget that in 1967 there were 10,000 dead Americans. Thanks to your involvement in the anti-war movement and the NVA the death toll rose to over 58,000. I don't think you could ever use the words Semper Fi, but by damn I can.

Ps. Walter Cronkite and his buddies in the pinko media also have their share of blood on their hands.

C. Wayne Standiford
www.burymewithsoldiers.com

[Scott]

[karlaerin]

[quote="Scott] Good for you, and welcome aboard. Do you have the URL for the Young America Foundation website?[/quote]

Thanks

Here is the website: http://www.yaf.org/

They do a lot of work for the Reagan Ranch. They also just had their 26th Annual National Youth Conference. You can go to the CSPAN website to listen to some of the speeches they have in their archives. I think one is Ben Stein. Another is Dr. Burt Folsom (a friend of my family's).
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[hosemonkey]

Please forgive my lack of sophistication, but the issue seems fairly simple to me. John Kerry is a cold-eyed schemer who set his sights on the highest office in the land as a very young man. His maneuvers in entering the Navy and worming his way into the honorable company of riverine operators and his subsequent manufacture of a marketable curriculum vitae (Purple hearts,Silver Stars etc.) were merely steps in his quest for high office. His cowardly betrayal of the rest of us in his further quest for media exposure was yet again another step in his master plan. When his purpose was accomplished, he abandoned the ragged misfits of the VVAW. And when service in Vietnam once again became politically correct, he cynically wrapped himself in the flag that he had previously spit upon and emblazoned on his office wall, the medals that he had dishonestly aquired, in spite of having allegedly tossed them over the White House fence. Those who fail to discern his true character will undoubtedly vote for this pathetic, flawed man. They are the same ones who sent William Clinton to the White House twice. I firmly believe that the American electorate gets exactly what it deserves. We have maintained our honor in the face of lies and vilification. John Kerry and those like him have no concept of the word. 'Nuf said.

[hosemonkey]

Please forgive my lack of sophistication, but the issue seems fairly simple to me. John Kerry is a cold-eyed schemer who set his sights on the highest office in the land as a very young man. His maneuvers in entering the Navy and worming his way into the honorable company of riverine operators and his subsequent manufacture of a marketable curriculum vitae (Purple hearts,Silver Stars etc.) were merely steps in his quest for high office. His cowardly betrayal of the rest of us in his further quest for media exposure was yet again another step in his master plan. When his purpose was accomplished, he abandoned the ragged misfits of the VVAW. And when service in Vietnam once again became politically correct, he cynically wrapped himself in the flag that he had previously spit upon and emblazoned on his office wall, the medals that he had dishonestly aquired, in spite of having allegedly tossed them over the White House fence. Those who fail to discern his true character will undoubtedly vote for this pathetic, flawed man. They are the same ones who sent William Clinton to the White House twice. I firmly believe that the American electorate gets exactly what it deserves. We have maintained our honor in the face of lies and vilification. John Kerry and those like him have no concept of the word. 'Nuf said.

[Me#1You#10]

Hose, I don't think I've seen a more succint summation of our shared conviction than the one you just penned.

Lack of sophistication? Twaddle brother...it was EL-E-GANT!