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Stevie
Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy
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Location: Queen Creek, Arizona
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 Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:31 am Post subject: Hey ya'll-didn't McCain work on that POW/MIA Comm w/ Kerry? |
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I'm reading over an article the Chief posted way back when and don't see McCain's name in it.... but I thought I remembered that it was McCain and Kerry working on that commission....
has my memory failed me? or not?
also - you guys gotta quit posting all this good stuff while I'm not
looking....
ok, my fault - I gotta 'look' more often! 
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Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage
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BuffaloJack
Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy
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| Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 10:53 am Post subject: |
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Stevie,
Your memory is good. Kerry and McCain did work on the POW/MIA thing. What they did borders on criminal.
You'll probably find most of what you are looking for here:
Senator covered up evidence of P.O.W.'s left behind
http://www.swiftvets.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=11631&highlight=mccain+pow+mia+kerry
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becca1223
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Location: Colonial Heights, VA
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| Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | WorldNetDaily
Why McCain defends Kerry
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Posted: August 10, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern
By Joseph Farah
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© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com
Why would John McCain characterize the SWIFT Boat vets commercial about John Kerry as "dishonest and dishonorable"?
Why would he ask President Bush to denounce it?
Why would he say something similar was "pulled" on him when he seeking the Republican presidential nomination in 2000?
Americans are supposed to respect Sen. John McCain because he is a war hero. But is he? And why is he so determined to defend John Kerry's dishonorable activities during and after the Vietnam War?
Now let me begin by saying McCain suffered greatly during his five years of captivity in the "Hanoi Hilton." But his horrific experiences do not entitle him to stretch the truth about his captivity at the hands of North Vietnamese Communists, nor to deceive Americans about his bravery and heroism.
When the Navy pilot was shot down over a lake near Hanoi, his captors did not know who he was – John McCain, son of the admiral in charge of the Pacific fleet. McCain was seriously injured in his ejection and in need of medical attention. In exchange for what passes as first-class care in Vietnam, McCain talked. He told the North Vietnamese about his father. He told them about the chain of command. He described himself as one of the "very best pilots" in the Navy.
Such behavior by a POW is strictly frowned upon in the Uniform Code of Military Justice and the military code of conduct.
"OK," you say, "McCain should be given a pass for this because he was badly hurt. Wasn't his behavior at the Hanoi Hilton honorable after he recovered from his wounds?"
No, not exactly. While serving as a POW, McCain was one of the captives who agreed to be used for propaganda purposes by the enemy. In fact, some argue that an interview he gave to a communist publication – detailing an accident aboard his ship, problems with low morale among U.S. servicemen, the chain of command in the U.S. Navy and other pertinent information – went far beyond mere propaganda and crossed the line into disclosing military intelligence secrets.
On June 5, 1969, the Washington Post carried a story titled, "Reds Say PW Songbird is Pilot Son of Admiral." The article states that, "Hanoi has aired a broadcast in which the pilot son of United States Commander in the Pacific, Adm. John McCain, purportedly admits to having bombed civilian targets in North Vietnam and praises medical treatment he has received since being taken prisoner."
Worse yet, many years later, when both John McCain and John Kerry were serving in the U.S. Senate, they teamed up to betray the families of the POWs and MIAs in favor of sucking up to the murderous Communist Vietnamese regime.
More than any other two men in America, McCain and Kerry orchestrated the cover-up of what became of our Vietnam POWs and MIAs.
As chairman of the Select Senate Committee on POW-MIA Affairs, Kerry gave Hanoi a clean bill of health with regard to credible claims Vietnam was still holding U.S. prisoners of war. Kerry ensured the committee voted that no U.S. servicemen remained there, angering many families of missing servicemen.
McCain served along with Kerry on that committee. According to Ted Samply, writing in the January 1997 issue of U.S. Veteran Dispatch, McCain enjoyed dismal relations with many POW-MIA families and activists. McCain said some harsh words about those who accused the U.S. government of knowingly leaving POWs behind. In fact, he called such people "the most craven, most cynical and most despicable human beings to ever run a scam." McCain's presence on the committee and his willingness to go along with Kerry ensured that the final report would be politically bulletproof.
Kerry got his reward. A year later, Hanoi announced it was awarding Colliers International, a Boston-based real estate company, an exclusive deal to develop its commercial real estate potentially worth billions. Stuart Forbes, the chief executive officer of Colliers, was Kerry's cousin.
One wonders what McCain's reward might be? What was in the cover-up for him? Why has he become an apologist for John Kerry's despicable and dishonorable record in Vietnam and, worse, his actions afterward?
Maybe it's just something about the character of John McCain. Maybe birds of a feather just flock together. Maybe this is why you should take anything McCain says about Kerry with a grain of salt. |
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FreeFall
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| Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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| McCains association with this MIA scandal is what soured me on him. I was neutral to begin with until I read about his background on it. |
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BuffaloJack
Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 12:30 am Post subject: |
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I'm not sweatin' McCain ever becoming POTUS. There's too many Vets with internet access and the ability to read. The truth will be known.
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Stevie
Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy
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Location: Queen Creek, Arizona
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 7:09 am Post subject: |
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thanks buffalojack! I thought I was correct on that!
I was thinking that really clinched it for me w/ McCain !
I wasn't thrilled w/ him prior to learning this tho...
I found a 'letter' from chief about it in my notes but McCain's
name wasn't in it...but, I thought I remembered him involved!
some people have been asking about him; and there are
some people on another msg board who have just moved
to AZ and were asking about him.
what chief told us just turned my stomach!
I'll check out the link given to refresh my brain cells !
thanks all ! 
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dusty
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Becca. Your archives are a treasure trove of information. Any historian would do well to count you as a source of info.
Dusty
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Me#1You#10
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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| I can do without the rather gratuitous references to McCain's conduct as a POW and, IMHO, it does a disservice to those who would hold McCain's feet to the fire on the POW/MIA/Kerry issue. Your mileage, of course, may vary... |
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BuffaloJack
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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Me#1You#10, you are correct; the WorldNetDaily piece is a bit of gratuitous McCain bashing and is in poor taste. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think the original intent, prior to the WorldNetDaily piece, was McCain's conduct while a POW. McCain and all the other POWs had it bad at the hands of the enemy. Anything that transpired during their captivity is forgiven as being the result of extreme duress. What isn't forgivable is the actions later on of those persons on the POW/MIA committee in the writing off of any unresolved POW/MIA issues for the purposes of political expediency. And we shouldn't forget that it was not only sKerry and McCain who were on the committee. Dick Cheney was there also.
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