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rlmorel · Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 3:12 am Post subject:

You are so right!

Now is the time, for all of those men and women who were slandered, portrayed as misfits, mental defectives and ticking time bombs by people who have no idea, to remember when they were young, remember the wrong that was done to all of you.

Our country has come a long way since 1979, before President Reagan. Remember those days? The military was in a tough state. On my ship, we had to hot-swap foul weather jackets to work on the flight deck in the North Atlantic. We had to stuff cleaning rags inside the jackets to stay warm. There wasn't much respect for the military. Men still died in the service of our country manning the ramparts in those years, but those cold warriors were forgotten because there were those who wanted to forget.

I want to see the Vets come out of the woodwork en masse and say to our country: "We served honorably, came home and contributed to our communities, held jobs, raised families. We deserve to be recognized for our contribution to what makes us all unique in the world as Americans, and not relegated to some Hollywood stereotype closet. There are a lot of us. Some of us agree with the SwiftVets, some of us don't. But we all want to ensure no soldiers are treated in that fashion ever again."

I apologize for putting words in the mouth of Vietnam vets, if that offended anyone. But I see this as a wake up call for many of our vets, and anyone who cares about respect for them.

And I see this election as a key way to send that message.
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Chofrock · Seaman Recruit Joined: 09 Aug 2004 Posts: 13

d19thdoc · Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 4:42 am Post subject:

JohnA wrote:

justamom · Lt.Jg. Joined: 06 Aug 2004 Posts: 135

Do you fail to understand WHY they (SwiftVets) have even decided to speak about this?

One more time -

Kerry chose to paint himself as the heroic, courageous, Vietnam Veteran, and highly decorated no less, to appear the more suitable man to be President/CIC of America during a time of war. That should carry quite a bit of weight.

However, what he has portrayed himself as is a complete fabrication in an effort to deceive as many of the american voters as he can.

IT'S NOT ABOUT A PERSONAL GRUDGE! I was born in 1963 and even I can see through this!

d19thdoc · Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 4:48 am Post subject:

Chofrock wrote:

Chofrock · Seaman Recruit Joined: 09 Aug 2004 Posts: 13

scotty61 · LCDR Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 419 Location: Glyndon MN

Ah, but this is civic duty. The fact that this discussion is going on gives credence to the charge that Kerry is unfit to command. Not only did he decide to make his service the centerpiece of his campaign, he tried to make it look to more than it actually was. Remember his original claim that he was highly decorated during two tours of duty. Did he truly think that it would never get out that he spent only four months in-country? By being up-front he could have spared himself the opening salvos from SBVFT and they might not have the traction they have now; plus he would not have to spend political capital fighting it. As a result he has shown that his decision making capability on a national level is not the best and in this case just plain dumb. The claim that he has a secret plan to win the war on terror is equally dumb. Not exactly presidential caliber leadership in my book.

Chofrock · Seaman Recruit Joined: 09 Aug 2004 Posts: 13

So you are saying that he did not serve two tours during his career?

And all of his medals do not make him "Highly Decorated"? Whether he deserved those medals is different arguement.

And I still fail to see how people who he did not serve with, for four month, thrity years ago, would have an accurate accounting of his command abilities.

ASPB · Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 5:36 am Post subject:

Well,

He hasn't demonstrated any command ability since and is betting the throne on 4 months in 68-69. Hell man...he's never held a real job in his life.
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LewWaters · Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 5:36 am Post subject:

Chofrock:

justamom · Lt.Jg. Joined: 06 Aug 2004 Posts: 135

Not to mention he and his attorney's efforts to silence those opposing him by sending out an incredibly harsh and threatening letter to all the television stations demanding that they not only NOT play the SwiftVets ad, but that they NOT sell air time to the SwiftVets either. The television stations were threatened with litigation to suppress someone's elses views - NOT "the other side's" views mind you (while similar) but this was the personal views of American citizens who served their country and if NOTHING LESS deserve a little respect and the RIGHT TO BE HEARD!

AT LEAST I THOUGHT THAT WAS WHAT AMERICA WAS ABOUT!

LewWaters · Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 5:50 am Post subject:

rlmorel · Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 5:51 am Post subject:

d19thdoc · Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 6:01 am Post subject:

Chofrock wrote: