SwiftVets.com

[McCloud]

Yeah, He's a zinger all right. Do a google search and check out his website. He has two doctorates and an I.Q. of a genius. He is a bomb thrower. He is a media personality in a very competitive environment so I'm sure he uses a lot of his shock to attract listeners. If you look beyond that, he raises a lot of valid points.

[mcb58]

Everyday for two weeks the Swiftvet story has been running on Jerry Doyle, Laura Ingraham, Michael Savage, Michael Reagan,NRAnews,David Horowitz,and others on the Sirius Satillite Radio.

A Lot of coverage and serious questions are being asked of Kerry.

KERRY HAS PROVIDED NOT ONE SINGLE ANSWER, HMMMMMM.
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THE GREAT FIFTY-EIGHT

[GodBlessUSA]

Its my hope that you can disseminate between factual news and provocative entertainment....I believe the problem is most people dont

Rush Limbaugh and Michael Savage (aka Michael Wiener) are first and foremost entertainers.....they have often said flipplant remarks and have had rumor mongering with no factual backing....this to delight their audience and whip them into a frenzy......

If you believe these two then you just believe what you want to hear....so everything that is said about Micheal Moore is just as relavant to these two......

To a point....I do not accuse Rush Limbaugh of dodging the draft he had a medical deferment and did not want to go....at that point with the popularity of the war who would blame him.....

But dont wrap yourself in the flag and critize those that did go....BTW Michael Wiener did not go to Vietnam either...or serve in uniform.....

Patriots of this country come in all political flavors...they all believe in America....

George McGovern (flew combat missions WWII, awarded Silver Star )
Bob Kerry (Vietnam)
Bob Dole (WWII)
Ollie North (combat decorated Marine)
John Kerry (Vietnam)
John McCain (Vietnam)

I dont agree with all of these guys politically, however, if it came to discussing what it was like to be in combat, what war is like....I would certainly believe these guys over Rush Limbaugh and Michael Savage/Weiner)....

[arjr111]

[RocketFett]

GodBlessTheUSA, the problem with your assessment of Lumbaugh is this: The things he says are true. Of course there is entertainment and humor strewn throughout his three hour daily show, but that does not mean that the news he presents is not all truthful and fact. Everytime someone in the past says that Limbaugh can't be taken seriously because he's an entertainer, I ask for one, JUST one example of something he's said on his show from the news, political, etc standpoint, and I have yet to get just one example of something Limbaugh has presented as fact that turned out to not be true. Not one example. And he's heavily invested in the SWIFT Vets story, and has not once said anything that contradicts any of the SWIFT Vets testimonies or affidavits. That is very compelling. The guy has the largest radio audience of any radio show or host in the nation, and has been where he is for 16 years. He wouldn't have gotten where he is and stayed there so long, on the top, if he had been saying things that weren't truth. Limaugh is an ally of the SWIFT Vets, and that is a BIG plus for these vets.

[RocketFett]

There is a SBV who signed the SBVT letter on RUsh's show right now, 12:51 PM Central time! YEEHAW!!!

[NavyBrat]

[Navy_Navy_Navy]

Hahahahah!

Some caller called in and ranted and raved about how "ineffective" John O'Neill was on one of yesterday's shows.

In his DREAMS!

John O'Neill was DEVASTATING! Keep it up, Swifts! You're hurting them, big time or they wouldn't be throwing their temper tantrums all over the internet and the media.

Including right here on your own board! You're getting 'er done!
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~ Echo Juliet ~
Altering course to starboard - On Fire, Keep Clear
Navy woman, Navy wife, Navy mother

[RocketFett]

Excellent post break down Navy Brat! That's all right on. Comparing mikey "twinkie boy" moore to Rush Limbaugh is simply obscene and ludecrous. The 9-11 commission full and final report completely and totally proves that every single one of moore contentions in his crockumentary farenlie 9-11, is all totally untrue, factually inaccurate, and bogus. Not one of the things that moore put in that joke of a "movie" of his is true, and all the factual documented and first hand evidence proves that. Yet everything that Limbaugh says is fact checked and proven to be accurate and he constantly is quoting other news sources also, so it's not like he's just grabbing this stuff out of thing air. If he was bogus and lied about things as news, he wouldn't have the largest radio audience in the nation, with over 20 million daily listeners. Lots of liberals listen too and they get aggrivated daily because he proves things they don't like but know are true, and the past few months that's been kerry. Rush says the things about kerry that are true, but the kerryites don't want America to know, so they have been attacking him all over too, but they never make any progress because they don't debate the facts, they just insult the people who report the facts.

One really funny thing that I think is conspicuous and under reported. Since moore was mentioned before, he makes a huge deal about how President Bush sat in the classroom for seven minutes after being told of the WTC attacks, and moore makes such a big deal about that, accusing him of knowing ahead of time and not doing anything and all that garbage. But it's been proven by kerry's own statements that at that SAME MOMENT, the same time Bush was sitting in the room with the kids for seven minute, kerry was in the capitol for over FORTY minutes and did NOTHING. He said himself basically "we were stunned and had no idea what to do", and did nothing for over FORTY MINUTES! And that's moore's candidate. While kerry was sitting around for FORTY MINUTES doing NOTHING while the towers burned and people died, Bush was leaving the class, giving orders, and starting America's war footing. While kerry was sitting there wetting himself with his mile long jaw dropped to the floor when the Pentagon was hit, Bush was in AF1 giving orders and stopping all air travel for 33 minutes, BEFORE jonny on the spot kerry even knew what to do! So it seems to me that Bush jumped into action a lot quicker than kerry did. Kerry didn't so SQUAT and sat on his wrinkled spoiled pampered lilly white rice pummeled butt for over a half hour while Bush was actually doing something. Funny how that doesn't make the news much. Limbaugh reported it though.

[RocketFett]

Navy, yeah Mr. O'Neill was VERY good! He made it very clear that Rasseman wouldn't have fallen out of the boat and needed rescue in the first place if kerry hadn't cut and run and fled from the kill zone, then returned after the shooting was over wish to pick up his abandoned crew mate, who ended up in the water in the first place because kerry ran off so suddenly and quickly that Rasserman lost his balance and fell into the water! (I've been hearing that Rasserman claims he was actually on kerry's boat if that's true. Don't know what to believe with the two of them) And you have to "flee" in the first place, in order to be able to "return" to the scene. You can't possibly return if you're friggin' already there to start with! Like the Swift Boat Vet that called in this morning on the Limbaugh show. "You do NOT flee the kill zone. You close up and you fight! If a boat is damaged then you close on it and assist and you kill the combatants". Something to that effect is what he said.

That's the thing that boggles my mind is the fact that Rasserman was ditched by kerry, fearing for his own pathetic life, and then picked up when kerry decided to actually return to his "comrades in arms" after the shooting was over, hence no danger to kerry's worthless life, and then pick up the guy in the water, which another boat was already on the way to pick up. It amazes me that Rasserman is backing kerry knowing the truth of this. Makes me wonder if kerry has some dirt on him. Or like I've heard, the vets that back kerry that served with him on his boat are complicit in schemes that they agreed to back him so he could get medals and he would award them medals of their own. Unbelievable. Eventually you would hope the guys in the boat with him would have some twinges of conscience and not go along with this stuff that the overwhelming majority of Vets that were there, as well as the evidence in the records, proves that kerry is lying. We'll see.

[You GottaBeKidding]

Navy3x,

And let's not forget "impotent". How many times did that caller use the words "ineffective and impotent"? At least three or four. Must be a Dim talking point. Bet we see that combo again here.

Rush wasn't buying it, that's for sure.

[NavyBrat]

Rocket-

I cannot even speak of that one man's
name who made that horrible 911 movie.
When you have Terrorist finanical backing
Something is wrong with this picture when
giving aid and comfort to the enemy immediately comes to mind

Rush is a true Patriot thus the two
shouldn't even be in the same post

Regards to Kerry and Bush's Response time during the 911
I saw place where Kerry criticised Bush's response time during that
7 minute time where he (the President) was reading to the children. Imagine that!! Kerry said he would have (in a big Papa bear voice)" Excuse me children, I have to do the President's Busiiness" Instead of waiting 7 minutes. Spokesperson for the President said the President didn't want to alarm the Children and did what the President was suppose to do, stay calm in a crisis.

In Regards to 911: Everywhere and everthing Bush did , Kerry tries to see
where he could have done better and the plain fact is, he can't and couldn't.

BTW- Thanks for the compliment

O'Neill was great yesterday. He was to the point everytime,
lifting the book up, pointing to it with accounts and descriptions,

That caller was obviously in Ozland, tapping his ruby slippers
and wishing hard it was not so
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Laura~

[4moreyears]

[Navy_Navy_Navy]

[You GottaBeKidding]

Navy3x,

And the fact that the other boats weren't just sitting around, they had already rescued the other guys in the water and Rassman was next.