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redneckvet · Lt.Jg. Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Posts: 112 Location: NC

This subject was brought up by someone in this forum weeks ago but got very little response.

Everyone knows that John Kerry kept a personal "journal" of his exploits during his tour. The following quote from his journal was posted:

"Scorching flashes of tracer, red and deadly, come at you with terrifying suddenness that catches all by surprise..."

This is John Kerry's poetic description of combat, but there is a problem. NATO troops (friendly) used RED tracers, Warsaw Pact (enemy) used GREEN tracers. I can only draw the following conclusions:

1. John Kerry was describing a "friendly fire" incidence.

2. A description of combat through the eyes of the enemy. (not unbelievable)

3. He doesn't have a clue what combat is about.

As a "grunt", one of the first things we were taught when we came in country was about the GREEN tracers.

Is this something that should be exploited, or do I have an over active imagination.

Anyones thoughts, please.
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ASPB · Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 12:38 pm Post subject:

Any call for release of records should include a call for Kerry's "War Diaries. They are the core of Brinkley's work....Except for February and March when Kerry was purportedly to be busy to make entries...how convenient.

For that period he relies on interviews with 6 enlisted men who claim to have been on his boat. I have doubts the Alston was, as he was I believe, seriously wounded on 29 Jan 1969 when Ted Peck still commanded PCF-94. He also relies on a hand-written "War Log" maintained by Mike Medeiros for that period.

1. Complete Service Records
2. John Kerry's War Diaries
3. Mike Medeiros's War Log

These aree the basic documents needed. Write Kerry demanding their release. Write every mainsewer media outlet insisting they publically demand such release.
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FlyLow · Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 12:56 pm Post subject: Re: Red tracers?

redneckvet · Lt.Jg. Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Posts: 112 Location: NC

Thanks Flylow.

To me, this is another classic case of how Kerry will embellish, lie or fabricate a story to make himself look like a hero.
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dafrog · Seaman Recruit Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 22

Red is good, green is bad. Pretty simple, almost seems we should ask for a 214.

Bob Chamberlain · Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 3:36 pm Post subject: Red tracers

I hate to say anything to support Kerry, but I have to say this. I have been shot at quite a bit by US weapons and ammunition - mostly Korean war era stuff that I guess fell into VC hands from the ARVN or Ruff-Puffs, I don't know. In any case, Kerry could be telling the truth on this. He probably isn't, but it is possible.

One thing to add though. You generally don't see the tracers if they are coming at you. Only if you are pretty far off to the left.

Marine4life · Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 5:39 pm Post subject:

I beleive that his claim was that while in Cambodia for Xmas 68 it was the south Vietnamese that were firing the tracers which almost hit him. So his claim of red is correct in that context but he wasn't there so he is just a liar in the end. My point, it doesn't matter what color he professes the basic justification for the color was a lie from the inception. Semper Fi.
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