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bluecollarman
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 4:09 pm    Post subject: Help Clarify Thurlow , Pee, Alston , after action reports. Reply with quote

Thank you for your service. I am a 70-74 USMC vet.
I bought the Book, I donated money I need a couple of answers.
Is Thurlows bronze star citation available for review?
Did Alston serve on Kerry's boat during the March incident? Records indicate he was not there but injured 2 weeks prior.
What does Richard Pee say about the the events of the day? Was he the CO of Pcf-3?
Did any of the other boats file after action reports for that day? Are they available?


You guys got them on the run. If you could answer the above questions it would seal the deal with a lot of people. I am still waiting on my book I ordered it when they first were on Amazon. Anybody else received theirs yet?
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producehawk
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 4:16 pm    Post subject: not yet Reply with quote

Amazon says I'll get mine around the 27th. I think I ordered it on the 6th.
This is the first time I have ever donated to anything like this. I know the new add will be worth it Very Happy Very Happy P.S. if you are reading this and have not donated money to the swift vet cause, please concider doing it. This election is about our grand kids future. Can you imagine Kerry putting the next 4 justices on the SC?
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bluecollarman
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 4:19 pm    Post subject: swiftvets.net Reply with quote

For anyone else fact checking stuff I talked to larry's son at Swiftboats.net
Where the info of crew rosters are. He says his band with was exceeded so he had to take the site down. You can still access the information on the wayback site if you need to.http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cache:AoZ0bqQHxLIJ:www.swiftboats.net/+Tay+Van+Nguyen,+BM2&hl=en
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bluecollarman
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 4:22 pm    Post subject: Re: not yet Reply with quote

producehawk wrote:
This is the first time I have ever donated to anything like this. I know the new add will be worth it Very Happy Very Happy P.S. if you are reading this and have not donated money to the swift vet cause, please concider doing it. This election is about our grand kids future. Can you imagine Kerry putting the next 4 justices on the SC?


My First time also. It is the first book I have ever purchased on line. I echo you plea.....Please Donate!
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Beatrice1000
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 4:35 pm    Post subject: Re: swiftvets.net Reply with quote

bluecollarman wrote:
For anyone else fact checking stuff I talked to larry's son at Swiftboats.net


I thought swiftboats.net was not affiliated with this site?
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low26
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This may answer some questions about Alstonhttp://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/ also in that story is a link to the original check that out to the photos are very interesting
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Navy_Navy_Navy
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, swiftboats.net is not associated with SBVFT - but there is a lot of information available there that people could use in their research.

Also we are not discussing Alston's situation in any way on this forum.


Thanks,
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bluecollarman
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 4:46 pm    Post subject: Also we are not discussion Alston's situation Reply with quote

I just read that from the admin. Can you tell me why? I sure don't like the sound of that. What is the difference between that and what the media is trying to do? Censorship is Censorship.
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Scott
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bluecollarman,

We are not discussing it here because:

1. The story did not originate with SBVFT.
2. The facts of the matter have not yet been established beyond doubt.
3. There is a very real matter of legal liability for the SBVFT in this case if they were to become associated with the story and it were not proven to be absolutely true.

Does that explain it?
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Navy_Navy_Navy
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I can tell you why.

It's been a long, hard road to get the Swifts' message out to the public. It's still a struggle and remains a struggle, because our pro-Kerry media wants to attack the messenger, instead of ferreting out the truth of the message.

The Swifts have made their case - it's airtight.

Some of the bloggers have taken up the fight to find further inconsistencies in the Kerry & Co. story and that is commendable. (I personally appreciate it and I'm not alone! Many of us greatly admire the work that has gone on in these investigations.)

But all it takes is ONE unsubtantiated story on this bulletin board to give the leftists ammunition against the whole organization, and this is what we have to guard against.

Despite the fact that all opinions posted here are clearly those of the author and SBVFT accepts no liability for the posts made here and does not endorse any of the claims made here, we have to be very careful.

Tread softly until the truth is nailed down tight and endorsed by the Swifts' organization. Wink
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bluecollarman
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 4:54 pm    Post subject: Pretty Much Thanks! Reply with quote

Okay I can accept that. I am sorry I brought it up with out reading the admin post first.

I sure would like to know about my other questions though.
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Navy_Navy_Navy
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 4:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Also we are not discussion Alston's situation Reply with quote

bluecollarman wrote:
Censorship is Censorship.


Just one further comment on this, because there is a lot of confusion and misperception out there about what constitutes "censorship" - this bulletin board is private property and the idea of censorship does not apply, here.

This is not the government telling people that they can't post what they want, here - this is the owner of a private website telling people what they will and will not host on their own site at their own expense.

Hope that clears that up a little bit.
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bluecollarman
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 4:58 pm    Post subject: look I do not want to hurt the cause I even wrote a song Reply with quote

I wrote this while you were having trouble getting the word out.
I kinda put it on the back burner since the press is giving you air time.

"LET THEM TALK"
Verse
ARE THE FEW ANOINTED, THE ONLY ONES THAT CAN?
TELL US HOW TO THINK ABOUT THE WAR IN VIETNAM?
THEY WANT US TO REMEMBER. BUT OVERLOOK THEIR FAULTS.
THE SWIFT BOAT VETS WERE THERE TOO, ....LET THEM TALK.


(chorus)
LET THEM TALK...HOW CAN YOU EVEN THINK TO CUT THEM OFF?
YOU STRIPPED AWAY THE HONOR FROM A WAR THAT THEY SERVED IN.
BUT SOME AREN'T GOING TO LET YOU GET AWAY WITH THAT AGAIN.
YOU SAY THAT THEY'RE ALL LYING, HERE'S A THOUGHT..... LET THEM TALK.

Verse
IF YOU WEREN'T ON THAT RIVER, THERE'S NO WAY TO KNOW.
WHY DON'T YOU LET THESE REAL MEN SPEAK, WHY DOES IT SCARE YOU SO?
HOW CAN YOU STILL DENY THEM, DID THEY NOT WALK THE WALK?
DON'T DANCE UPON OUR HEROES....LET THEM TALK.



(chorus)

LET THEM TALK...HOW CAN YOU EVEN THINK TO CUT THEM OFF?
YOU STRIPPED AWAY THE HONOR FROM THE WAR THAT THEY SERVED IN..
BUT SOME OF US AREN'T GOING TO LET YOU DO IT ONCE AGAIN.
YOU SAY THAT THEY'RE ALL LYING, HERE'S A THOUGHT...
LET THEM TALK.



Verse
YOU DON'T HAVE TO LISTEN, YOUR ALWAYS TELLIN' ME.
YOU ALSO HAVE AN OFF CONTROL, RIGHT THERE ON YOUR TV.
THESE MEN SERVED BESIDE HIM, TELL ME THAT IT'S FALSE.
IF YOU CAN'T PROVE THEM WRONG...LET THEM TALK.


DON'T DO MY THINKING FOR ME, I WANT THEIR POINT OF VIEW.
REASONS NOT A SPECIAL RIGHT, RESERVED FOR ONLY YOU!
THE STAKES ARE HIGH, I NEED TO KNOW, HOW MUCH IS THE
COST. WHY DO YOU WANT THEM SILENCED ....LET THEM TALK.


(chorus and out)
LET THEM TALK...HOW CAN YOU EVEN THINK TO CUT THEM OFF?
YOU STRIPPED AWAY THE HONOR FROM THE WAR THAT THEY SERVED IN.
BUT SOME OF US, AREN'T GOING TO LET YOU DO IT ONCE AGAIN.
YOU SAY THAT THEY'RE ALL LYING, HERE'S A THOUGHT.... LET THEM TALK.



YOU SAY THAT THEY'RE ALL WRONG, WELL HERE'S A THOUGHT.
LET THEM TALK.
LET THEM TALK..
LET THEM TALK..
(AND OUT)

BLUECOLLARMAN 2004
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Navy_Navy_Navy
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GREAT poem/song! Thanks!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 5:01 pm    Post subject: Thanks Reply with quote

Thanks! Wink
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