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PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 4:40 am    Post subject: Kerry Condemns Ad Attacking Bush Service But Reply with quote

Although Kerry denounces the ad fellow Democrats support the ad.
On the other hand we have McCain denouncing the swift boat ad. But article reports Democrats are concerned swift boat ad is now affecting voters concern about Kerry - big trouble...

Kerry Condemns Ad Attacking Bush Service
By RON FOURNIER

WASHINGTON (AP) - John Kerry on Tuesday condemned a television ad that criticizes President Bush's Vietnam-era service in the Texas Air National Guard, even as prominent veterans linked to the Democratic presidential campaign echoed the commercial's accusations.

Bush's campaign accused Kerry of hypocrisy.

In a campaign shadowed by the war on terror, the military records of Kerry and Bush emerged again as an issue after Republican Sen. John McCain called on Kerry to denounce an ad that accuses Bush of using family connections to avoid the Vietnam War.

McCain, a decorated Vietnam veteran with the reputation of a political maverick, had called on Bush two weeks ago to condemn an ad in which several veterans accused the Kerry of fabricating his war record.

The White House has declined to denounce that ad. Kerry, mindful of McCain's political clout, issued a conciliatory statement minutes after the Arizona senator told The Associated Press he wanted Kerry to condemn the anti-Bush ad.

``I agree with Senator McCain that the ad is inappropriate,'' Kerry said in a statement released by his campaign. ``This should be a campaign of issues, not insults.''

Hours earlier, at a news conference organized by Kerry's campaign, two veterans accused Bush of using family ties to get out of combat.

Kerry served and fought, said retired Army Gen. Wesley Clark, who ran for the Democratic nomination against the senator but now is in his camp. ``The other man scrambled and used his family's influence to get out of hearing a shot fired in anger,''

Retired Adm. Stansfield Turner, who was CIA director in the Carter administration, said Bush ``used his father's influence to get into the Air National Guard and avoid going to war.''

At the same news conference, Jim Rassmann, who credits Kerry with saving his life while under fire in Vietnam, noted that Kerry has said Bush served honorably. However, Kerry also said in February of Bush's Guard service, which included time in Alabama: ``The issue here, as I have heard it raised, is was he present and active on duty in Alabama at the times he was supposed to be? I don't have the answer to that question.''

The Kerry campaign did not criticize Clark and Turner.

``Those are veterans who earned the right to their opinion,'' said spokeswoman Debra DeShong. ``John Kerry speaks for John Kerry.''

Bush spokesman Steve Schmidt said Kerry can't have it both ways. ``It's yet one more example of John Kerry saying one thing and doing another. John Kerry condemns the ad, then John Kerry turns the campaign's top surrogate loose to repeat the baseless charges that are in the ad.''

Kerry volunteered for service in Vietnam, earning a Silver Star and three Purple Hearts. Bush served stateside in the Texas Air National Guard and was honorably discharged.

A new ad by MoveOn.org, a liberal interest group, urges Bush to condemn the anti-Kerry ad and contends that the president ``used his father to get into the National Guard and when the chips were down went missing.''

McCain told The AP that the ad is ``totally inappropriate'' and a disservice to members of the National Guard who are ``fighting and dying in Iraq.''

``This is the bitterest, most unsavory campaign in the nation's history,'' McCain said. ``And it's only going to get worse.''

Asked whether he wanted Kerry to condemn the MoveOn.org ad, McCain replied, ``Yes. It's the same line of scurrilous attack'' leveled against Kerry two weeks ago.''

``I wish we would stop opening wounds from a war of more than 30 years ago and talk about the war we're fighting now,'' McCain told The AP. ``I believe they both served honorably.''

McCain said both negative ads were funded by groups that benefit from unlimited, unregulated ``soft money'' donations, which he has tried to ban.

Kerry's campaign says the ad attacking their man was funded by people tied to Bush or his allies.

With security a top issue for voters, Kerry has heavily promoted his war record while Bush reminds voters of his performance after the Sept. 11 attacks. Neither wants to cede ground on the question of who would best protect the nation.

Kerry aides say their polls show no impact from the questions about his Vietnam service, though local Democratic politicians are passing along anecdotal warnings that the charges could be raising doubts among voters.


08/17/04 19:40

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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``Those are veterans who earned the right to their opinion,'' said spokeswoman Debra DeShong. ``John Kerry speaks for John Kerry.''


Maybe, that should read, "Those are veterans who earned the right to their opinion,'' said spokeswoman Debra DeShong. "[Swift Boat Veterans for Truth] speaks for [Swift Boat Veterans for Truth]."

Seems freedom of speech is only to be extended to *some* veterans.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 4:55 am    Post subject: Re: Kerry Condemns Ad Attacking Bush Service But Reply with quote

JK wrote:
Although Kerry denounces the ad fellow Democrats support the ad.


I think maybe they put out that ad with the plan that Kerry could "denounce it" so they could say, ok, Kerry denounced the ad against Bush, now Bush has to denounce the Swifts ad against Kerry. They are desparate to have Bush denounce the vets. They are desparate to put into the public's mind that Bush created the SwiftVets. They are so juvenile in the game they are playing. Would be funny if this wasn't so important. Looking forward to the new SBVFT ad!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 5:07 am    Post subject: Re: Kerry Condemns Ad Attacking Bush Service But Reply with quote

Beatrice1000 wrote:
JK wrote:
Although Kerry denounces the ad fellow Democrats support the ad.


I think maybe they put out that ad with the plan that Kerry could "denounce it" so they could say, ok, Kerry denounced the ad against Bush, now Bush has to denounce the Swifts ad against Kerry. They are desparate to have Bush denounce the vets. They are desparate to put into the public's mind that Bush created the SwiftVets. They are so juvenile in the game they are playing. Would be funny if this wasn't so important. Looking forward to the new SBVFT ad!


As am I. However, MoveOn has a lot more $$ than the Swiftvets, and are going to be showing their ads nationally.

I certainly hope some wealthy anti-Kerry individuals decide to create some financial parity for the SBVTs.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 5:24 am    Post subject: Re: Kerry Condemns Ad Attacking Bush Service But Reply with quote

Mona wrote:
I certainly hope some wealthy anti-Kerry individuals decide to create some financial parity for the SBVTs.


Hey Mona! hoping along with you -- but then they'd be accused of "creating John O'Neill" -- from scratch even! Don't you know that if you are a republican, you CANNOT donate any money to the SBVFT -- or the dems will know the reason why. BOY, these new rules concerning individual freedoms of choice (speaking your mind say, or accusing someone of falsehoods) coming from the dems doesn't fit with their panic over the Patriot Act. They seem to be losing their minds --
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really have a problem with the idea that Presidents or Presidential candidates or anyone else in an elected position has the right or authority to condem and order a stop on an ad.

It is amazing to me that the left, so famous for promoting individual rights and free speech now are promoting an action that would only happen in a dictatorship.

After the slanderous ads they have run against President Bush, the very demand is almost funny. Its ok for Michael Moore, Whoopie Goldberg and Richard Clark to slander the President, but tell the truth about their darling and katie bar the door, they will do anything to stop it.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hanna,

Agreed - Why denounce anything? Let moveOn run their ad... Folks are smarter than that.
Maybe SwiftVets should add a tagline after the next ad...
"Please, do not take our word for it. Research. Knowledge is not only power, it's critical this election."

How can someone argue about checking all the claims?

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