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manofaiki Former Member
Joined: 15 Aug 2004 Posts: 96
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Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2004 3:22 pm Post subject: How Unprepared Are TV Journalists To Discuss SwiftVet Book? |
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Guys, Chris Matthews was SO UNPREPARED when he ambushed Michelle Malkin the other night, he actually tried to FLIP THROUGH HER COPY OF UNFIT FOR COMMAND after he kicked her off his show so he could try to verify the Swift Vet's claim Kerry 'shot himself'.
that's right. Michelle brings up the fact that many of the vet's quoted in Unfit for Command say two of Kerry's Purple Heart wounds were 'self-inflicted' and IMMEDIATELY Matthews jumped her, insinuating she was claiming that 'Kerry shot himself on purpose' to get a Purple Heart and tried to ram that intepretation down her throat and she WOULD NOT LET HIM DO IT.
So he got so PISSED at her, he threw her off his show after the end of the first segment; the second segment she was supposed to talk about her new book, In Defense of Internment, but Matthews told her she was gone.
So as she's going to leave, she finds one of the MSNBC staffers has gone and gotten HER copy of Unfit For Command and Matthews is now thumbing through it trying to see if he's right AFTER THE FACT.
She had to ask for her own book back. Apparently MSNBC DOES NOT OWN A COPY OF THE SWIFT VET'S BOOK EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT IT EVERY DAY FOR THE PAST TWO WEEKS.
I sent Mr. Matthews some VERY POINTED EMAILS about this, especially since he posted on his blog that he 'caught' Michelle in a lie, that she claimed 'Kerry shot himself on purpose' and then he, noble defender of the truth, got her to retract that ridiculous claim. What BS.
Unprepared? Matthews is talking on national TV about charges found in a book he hasn't even read, attributes an argument to a guest that that guest is not even making and then throws her off his show when she refuse to back down to him.
manofaiki _________________ "If any man has not the stomach for this fight, let him depart from us.! We would not die in that man's company!"
You bugged out in Vietnam - so we don't need you commanding us in the War on Terror!
So get lost, John Kerry!!!!! |
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Beatrice1000 Resource Specialist
Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 1179 Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2004 3:25 pm Post subject: Re: How Unprepared Are TV Journalists To Discuss SwiftVet Bo |
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manofaiki wrote: | ..Chris Matthews |
I can't even look at him anymore - |
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Tom Poole Vice Admiral
Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 914 Location: America
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Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2004 3:28 pm Post subject: Chris Matthews |
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For many, due to his irrational behavior, he's now untrustworthy and irrelevant. _________________ '58 Airedale HMR(L)-261 VMO-2 |
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Redview Seaman Apprentice
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 88 Location: indiana
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Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2004 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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They are afraid to read it.
It could hold water, and what if it does?
That means, a group of people outside of media influence, got
an audience. They can't STAND this.
If tvs went dead tomorrow, the world would be a very different place.
We wouldn't have to listen to them for our infomation.
Their monoply is wounded. |
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hanna Rear Admiral
Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 701
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Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2004 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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I would bet money that he was severly chastised for his performance Thurs. I suspect he has spent Fri and the Weekend preparing for Monday and I suspect by then he will be very well informed and well armed. Don't underestimate him. He has the entire DC behind him. |
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Curt Lt.Jg.
Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 129 Location: Eastern NC
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Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2004 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Tom Poole
For many, due to his irrational behavior, he's now untrustworthy and irrelevant.
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I totally agree with this statement. The American people will be the ones to decide. Unfortunately, he has a TV show and can be bias. The people will not get the truth from him. I do hope hanna is right. If Chris will honestly look into this instead of trying to come up with his own crap, he will change. I wouldnt hold my breath, but I will cross my fingers..lol.
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BB Stacker Seaman
Joined: 20 Aug 2004 Posts: 150 Location: Eustis Fl
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Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2004 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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I saw that discraceful performance from Mathews. It's evident from that, and a similar attack on Oneil earlier in the week that his bias has blinded him from even a simblance of objective journalism. It is obvious that he has chosen sides and is no longer interested in getting to the truth. All he wants now is to protect his guy.
The Swifties continue to make their case with a high degree of integrity. And Democrat hacks, like Mathews, are in screaching terror that their guy might well be proved to be the liar and opportunist the Swifties have shown. |
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manofaiki Former Member
Joined: 15 Aug 2004 Posts: 96
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Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2004 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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For a personal account of what happened to her on Matthew's show, where she also supplies a link to Matthew's blog where he brags about making her retract her claim, go to the link below.
http://michellemalkin.com/
It's about halfway down the page of her blog, but worth it.
I want to see matthews eat crow over this.
manofaiki _________________ "If any man has not the stomach for this fight, let him depart from us.! We would not die in that man's company!"
You bugged out in Vietnam - so we don't need you commanding us in the War on Terror!
So get lost, John Kerry!!!!! |
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manofaiki Former Member
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Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2004 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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By the way, here's the e-mails I sent to Chris Matthews about this: one after watching the show and the second after reading his misleading blog account of the incident:
Dear Mr. Matthews;
Since you did not give Michelle Malkin a chance on your show last night to relate what a 'self-inflicted wound' is, I would like to take this opportunity.
A self-inflicted wound is when a soldier inadvertantly injures himself with his own ordinance due to carelessness, or the fog of war, or deliberate action.
Not one Swift Vet has ever stated that Kerry deliberately 'shot' himself.
All of his Purple Heart wounds were small cuts or bruises that did not require even one day of hospilitazion or as much as a single stitch. The very first wound was treated with a bandaid.
By repeatedly cutting Mrs. Malkin off last night, and not giving her a chance to state that Kerry did not deliberately wound himself, but that instead he inadvertantly wounded himself by setting off grenades too close and by firing a M-79 grenade launcher too close to his own boat, you inadvertantly caused a self-inflicted wound to your own journalistic integrity.
See, you didn't DELIBERATELY set out to demonstrate you are a partisan hack; that happened in the heat of the moment when you tried to insist that Mrs. Malkin was claiming Kerry deliberately shot himself; nonetheless, your integrity has suffered a 'self-inflicted' wound.
See the point?
Brian Cates
Portland Texas
Dear Mr. Matthews:
In your blog on that broadcast, you say she claimed Kerry deliberately shot himself on purpose so he could get a purple heart.
She never said that. She said 'self-inflicted wound' and YOU IMMEDIATELY ASSUMED THAT IS WHAT SHE MEANT and tried to ram that interpretation down her throat and beat her over the head with it.
Very unprofessional on you're part. People who have read Unfit For Command and then see that interview know EXACTLY what Mrs. Malkin meant when she said 'self-inflicted wound'.
You actually came off very badly.
Brian Cates
Portland Texas _________________ "If any man has not the stomach for this fight, let him depart from us.! We would not die in that man's company!"
You bugged out in Vietnam - so we don't need you commanding us in the War on Terror!
So get lost, John Kerry!!!!! |
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IamHG Ensign
Joined: 21 Aug 2004 Posts: 69
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Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2004 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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here is the email I sent him:
Chis I gotta say I was really dissapointed with you on the show the other night. I have enjoyed you for some time. I know you are a democrat, I am a republican (or at least a republican voting independet) but I have always seen you as trying to be honest.
You blew it with Michelle Malkin. Now I know you are getting TONS of kuddos from the left, and it is understandable because you are good at what you do, but don't you think that at the very least you should read the book before doing multiple attack interviews with people on the subject?
Any line of questioning is fair, and I support your use of hardball tactics, but I honestly have really been noticing lots of "softball" tactics when dealing with the left, and the tactic of asking leading questions that imply a certain response, then not letting them actually respond until you go to the next leading question is not really helpful to the public discourse. Not coming from a "journalist" that is.
You should let the political folks do their own work, and not try to do it for them. You have a vote just like me, go vote for John Kerry. Or go work for his campaign, but to "work" for him in such an obvious way while hiding behind a newsmans desk is just dishonest.
I am telling you now, mark my words, that this issue has the potential leaving Kerry on the McGovern scrapheap of history. I sense that you see this too.
It may pain you... but these swiftboat guys are doing what they are doing for a reason, and they cannot just be written off as partisans. Kerry has raised his VietNam era service as fodder for this campaign, fair is fair. Lets have the discussion. What you had the other night was not discussion, it was the stiffeling of discussion.
Thanks for hearing me out.
PS. I went and gave 500$ to the swiftvets last night. Thats a hellofa lot of money for a family of 8. I hope lots of your fans "like me" saw your interview and do the same.
Also. Olberman is funny, but when he turns partisan its just mean spirited... pass that along for me please. _________________ <insert pithy signature here> |
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integritycounts Rear Admiral
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 667
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Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2004 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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Chris Matthews was "given a Vacation day". Everyone knows he lost his capacity to reason. He had a nervous breakdown on the air. He also confirmed he has not read the book, will working hard to discredit it
"MATTHEWS: What do you mean by self-inflicted? Are you saying he shot himself on purpose? Is that what you‘re saying?
MALKIN: Did you read the book...
MATTHEWS: I‘m asking a simple question. Are you saying that he shot himself on purpose.
MALKIN: I‘m saying some of these soldiers...
MATTHEWS: And I‘m asking question.
MALKIN: And I‘m answering it.
MATTHEWS: Did he shoot himself on purpose.
MALKIN: Some of the soldiers have made allegations that these were self-inflicted wounds.
MATTHEWS: No one has ever accused him of shooting himself on purpose.
MALKIN: That these were self-inflicted wounds.
MATTHEWS: Your saying there are—he shot himself on purpose, that‘s a criminal act?
MALKIN: I‘m saying that I‘ve read the book and some of the...
(CROSSTALK)
MATTHEWS: I want an answer yes or no, Michelle.
....
MATTHEWS: I have never heard anyone say he shot himself on purpose. I haven‘t heard you say it."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5765243/ |
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Shane's PopPop Ensign
Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 53 Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2004 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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Just as the MSM dis-respected the vets in the late 60's and all of the 70's they under estimated the Storm warning by supporting JFnK 30 years later. So they never investigated any of the many stories coming out about this POS. Now their only recourse is to again dis-respect us again so that their dropping viewership won't drop them completely. _________________ This space for rent! |
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low26 Lieutenant
Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 219 Location: Chicago il
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Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2004 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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The truth is the MSM will do anything to protect their boy. We will NEVER get a fair shake, This is a flat out socialist/internationalist movement and they will stop at nothing to achieve their goals.It makes me literally sick to see it but that is what it is. And sadly allot of our population believe in this crap. They believe America is evil and cause all problems because we are insensitive and imperialistic and other such crap. I pray for America every day to stop this socialist over throw of our government that is worse every year. I can not understand it but I guess that socialism is what they want because allot of people are embracing it with open arms.If they win and they are getting closer to every time Say hello UN rule and goodbye constitution. It makes me want to vomit |
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Shane's PopPop Ensign
Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 53 Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2004 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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They are not getting closer. They are running scared because their only way to refute these charges is to create bigger lies and disrespect veterans again and Real Americans will see this and will re-elect GWB. And then they will try to undermine any ?/Republican/VRWC vs Hillary's/Socialist agenda in 2008! But will anybody be watching or listening to them by then? _________________ This space for rent! |
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low26 Lieutenant
Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 219 Location: Chicago il
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 12:16 am Post subject: |
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I am talking about them getting closer in general and they are every year by hook or by crook. I am saying we have a real problem here that will not go away! Many of them do not even believe they are socialist that is how strong the propaganda is, And the lefty socialist for the most part control the propaganda |
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