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Sun Tzu Seaman
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 8:03 am Post subject: No connection????????? |
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Sun Tzu Seaman
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Bhist Lieutenant
Joined: 01 Jun 2004 Posts: 228
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 8:07 am Post subject: |
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If Bush posted a similar letter on SBVT website, Kerry and his henchmen would be screaming for a Bush impeachment. _________________ Watch Kerry Implode Because Of Truth!!
Watch Rather Implode Because Of Lies!! |
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Polaris Rear Admiral
Joined: 16 Aug 2004 Posts: 626
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 8:10 am Post subject: |
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Exactly. This is why Bush/Cheney filed a counter-complaint against the Kerry campaign with the FEC.
My advice to everyone is relax. We aren't connected with the GOP in any way. We know it. Just stick to it. Do people who also support the GOP donate to us? Sure. DUH! They want to stop Kerry and so do we. That's LEGAL!
As for the rest, the flyer was a dirty trick, the NYTimes "proof" would get you booted out of court so hard that you would be in low earth orbit. As for the POW (sorry I forget his name off hand), that was his mistake...and our carelessness...and that is ALL. Furthermore, it was BUSH/CHENEY that exposed it and fired him from his campaign. That shows that we both intend to follow the law.
Besides, it would cheapen what we stand for to coordinate with any political campaign...and all we have to do is make that point firmly but politely. Kerry is playing with dynomite given his cute connections...and I expect that will backfire as well. _________________ -Polaris
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Sun Tzu Seaman
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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Who really has ties to "shadowy groups?"
Kerry hires online chief from MoveOn
From John Mercurio
CNN Political Unit
Wednesday, April 7, 2004 Posted: 3:53 PM EDT (1953 GMT)
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- John Kerry has hired an Internet-savvy Democrat to run his presidential campaign's online communications, a move that raises new questions about the link between his campaign and the independent groups that run TV ads on his behalf.
Zach Exley, the director of special projects for the MoveOn PAC, is going to the Kerry campaign to become its director of online communications and organization.
Exley also worked during the Democratic presidential primary for Howard Dean, helping Dean set up his web-based organization.
Since Kerry became the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee in early March, the MoveOn PAC has spent more than $2.5 million on TV ads that attack President Bush.
But under the new campaign-finance law, those efforts cannot be coordinated with the Kerry campaign.
A MoveOn statement said Exley and the staff of all MoveOn entities have agreed that they will not be in contact through the election period to avoid the appearance of coordination, "even though federal election rules permit some forms of communication."
MoveOn has spent roughly $17 million on ads since it started running its "misleader" campaign against Bush last year.
Republicans said Exley's move reinforces their accusations that Kerry and his Democratic allies are circumventing the McCain-Feingold campaign finance law they fought so hard to enact. (GOP challenges anti-Bush ads)
"It's another example of the coordination between MoveOn.org and the Kerry campaign that is illegal under campaign finance law," a Bush campaign official said.
"The Media Fund and MoveOn are functioning as Kerry's slush fund, a shadow Democratic Party that's illegally using soft dollars."
MoveOn became the subject of controversy early this year when it posted two ads on its Web site that compared Bush to Adolf Hitler. The ads were submitted to the group as part of a contest to produce anti-Bush commercials, and Republican Chairman Ed Gillespie said Exley dismissed Republican complaints about them with a barnyard expletive.
"In addition to the obvious questions his hiring raises about further illegal coordination between the Kerry campaign and MoveOn.org, you have to wonder what hiring someone who considers Hitler comparisons to be legitimate political discourse says about the Kerry campaign," Gillespie said in a statement issued Wednesday. |
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ccr Commander
Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 325
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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I didn't know that BC had filed a counter complaint with the FEC. Source? _________________ Whose side is John Kerry really on? Take this quiz and decide for yourself.
http://www.learnthat.com/quiz/
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Polaris Rear Admiral
Joined: 16 Aug 2004 Posts: 626
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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ccr,
I believe CNN said that. I will try to get a link _________________ -Polaris
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igor Seaman Apprentice
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Polaris Rear Admiral
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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Guys,
Here is the link:
www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/20/kerry.swiftboat/index.html
I should note that actually Bush/Cheney filed their complaint back in May (I overlooked that), but the complaint is identical (and frankly the GOP evidence is more compelling).
IIRC the FEC has said that the rules will prohibit such spending starting in January. Given that, Kerry doesn't have a case (and honestly Kerry knows it...he is doing it for the headlines and not for any legal relief). _________________ -Polaris
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poseidon Seaman Apprentice
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