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LtMom
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| I keep hearing the Dems say that Kerry still carries shrapnel in his thigh. Does anyone have any info on this? Does he still have rice in his butt? |
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4moreyears
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Shrapnel conjures up a large jagged piece of nasty metal, major jagged wounds...torn flesh...amputation. So my question is the shrapnel in question the size of a pin head...or....as large as a toaster?
Remember semantics and the meaning of "IS"...let's not leave any loose ends intied.
Did kerry say"OUCH" when the bandaid came off? I sure bet Bob Dole went through some pain and suffering. Let's not let kerry elevate his suffering to the level of Bob Dole's.
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sevry
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| Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 12:57 am Post subject: Re: Shrapnel in thigh |
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| LtMom wrote: | | I keep hearing the Dems say that Kerry still carries shrapnel in his thigh. Does anyone have any info on this? Does he still have rice in his butt? |
The only legitimate Purple Heart wound - whether or not it deserved a PH. He was apparently sailing on, and some VC on shore tried to take him out. He missed. But Kerry and a crewman were injured, perhaps slightly - but still injured. There's no medical record made public, that I'm aware of. Kerry did post his own private doctor's account, possibly based on records Kerry had, his own examination, and Kerry's own stories. And I think they pulled even that from his site, perhaps because it describes Kerry getting his 'arm wound' from hitting the bulkhead, rather than from enemy fire or a second watermine (Rassman said the mine that knocked him off must have been what caused Kerry's arm wound, when Rassman first appeared in public in 17 JAN 2004, as seen in a video perhaps still on Kerry's own website, called Reunion). |
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bergstrom79
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Re: shrapnel in jfkerry's leg.
Listened to a part of the Snow radio show. He mentioned Kerry fell or something and Kerry joked that he ( Kerry) had to get an MRI for his leg.
Moments later a RN called in & said if you have shrapnel in your leg, you can't undergo an MRI b/c of the properties of shrapnel would not allow a proper read (paraphrasing here).
Can anyone confirm this? It sounds like yet another jfkerry embellishment, but no show stopper.....Just curious. |
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cipher
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The doctor made the decision that it would be more traumatic to go in after the piece of "shrapnel" than it would be to leave it in. This implies the "shrapnel" was no significant threat to the patient's health, well-being, and unlikely to cause future complications. This would be especially true if the "shrapnel" were, say, organic. And it was smooth, and not jagged and likely to cause later trauma. And it was the size of, oh, say a grain of rice....
"Shrapnel" is detritus of an explosion. It is NOT necessarily metal.
It may not even show up on, oh, say an X-ray, ultrasound, or cat scan. The scar would remain, however.
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kmudd
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| If it is a big piece of shrapnel wouldn't Kerry take a while to recover? Wouldn't he miss at least a few days of duty? |
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Big Kahuna
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I would still bet a Cat Scan would prove this again is another big fat lie. But then again he'd say it oxydized away. He's got an answer for all of his lies.
On December 19, 1973 I went through the windshield of a truck while I was in the Air Force. To this day I still have a chunk of windshield in my head. Am I a War Hero now?
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No one asked me, but:
The Swift Vets have done a really good job of sticking to things they could confirm.
To my knowledge, no one is questioning Kerry's 2nd wound. It clearly could not have been that bad since he missed no time, but...
He still earned his 2nd PH. Let's keep our credibility by sticking with what we know to be true.
Just my thoughts.
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Scars are a bad thing.
There are emotional scars left on vets due to kerry's grandstanding...those scars are not visible but very real.
Then there are scars that can ravage the body's largest organ...the skin.
Then there are scars from a paper cut.
If the shrapnel can't be detected by X-ray...then I would like to know the dimensions of the scar in question.
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that may be the shrapnel from the now famous rice incident 
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Congress may soon consider a new medal to recognize minimally serious wounds.
The new medal would be called the "Purple Owie".
It would be authorized for application directly over the wound. After use, it can be rolled up and thrown over the nearest fence..........
Q: "Who acts like a sissy over 3 little scratches?.
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sevry
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| kate wrote: | | that may be the shrapnel from the now famous rice incident |
20 FEB he was supposedly sailing along, and an RPG was shot his way, slightly wounding himself and an enlisted man.
Now 'Hack' vehemently argues that the slightest wound merits the PH because - he argues - whadya want af-er-all, the guy to be dead? Then he gets it? So, give it for every little scratch, because it could have closer to the heart, each time - could have been worse, he argues. So - 'Hack'.
He supposedly has something in his leg. I don't know if it's metallic or what. But it's supposed to be there. Would it really . . . suprize anyone if there were nothing there, on the other hand? |
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DenisC
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Congress may soon consider a new medal to recognize minimally serious wounds.
The new medal would be called the "purple owie".
It would be authorized for application directly over the wound. After use, it can be rolled up and thrown over the nearest fence..........
Q: "Who acts like a sissy over 3 little scratches?.
Hint: He got 3 purple hearts in 4 months but never spent a day in the hospital.
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