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LewWaters
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

By playing the rest of the tape, leftstream media will once again be left with nouc mam all over their faces Laughing

O'Neill told Colmes right out that he needed to read the very next sentence. Made Colmes look sort of inept, kind of like a little kid who just had his nyah nyah thrown right back at him.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

O'Neill was on a BOAT. That was his job, to be on the BOAT, not up on land. It is quite possible to be in Cambodia (as in "in Cambodian waters") and NOT be in Cambodia, and have both statements be true. Especially on the west coast.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just finished watching Hannity and Colmes on TiVo...John O'Neil seemed to make several convincing points regarding the newly reported comment he made in a taped conversation with Nixon about being in Cambodia himself: 1) His conversational comment was taken out of context. 2) That in the very next sentence he continued to say that he was "along the border". 3) That this took place in a very different area of Vietnam along the "west coat of Cambodia", not near the alleged Kerry incursion.

Cleary this was not a public, nor a prepared statement about being in or along the Cambodian border, it was simply a private conversation.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even if O'Neil lied (not saying he did) about it, what difference does that make?
They can indepently corroborate the fact that John Kerry wasn't and that is what the real issue is.
The problem is that any time an issue pops up they attack the messenger and never look at the issue.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Camp Kerry is afraid to send anyone out to go against O'Neill. This tells me that they think O'Neill comes across more credible than the Lanny Davises and Hurleys. O'Neill should be on H&C every night. Let him hammer away unopposed.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love the way that O'Neill makes Alan Colmes look like he's trying to pass a 40 pound brick out of his puckered cheeks. He always looks so constipated. Kind of like a weasel who ate 50 pounds of shredded bark.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They were two different assignments for O'Neil as I understand it.

Kerry did not have the second assignment which was along the Cambodia river. Or at least nowhere near Christmas time.

But the key thing is this:

O'Neil never claimed that he never worked the Cambodia border. If he had denied that, then this might be a story.

This was a Democratic release. I think it shows again how complicit the networks are with DNC that they didn't even take the time to vet this before bringing this to air.

It was just a few days ago when the Root story was reported all over the nation to "contradict" the Swift Vets. That lasted as long as it took to actually read the article.

I believe the case is the same here.

"You said you were near the border!"

"Yes. That was where I was assigned"

"... oh."

Hardly a story.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CERDIP wrote:
So, how did O'Neill clear this up? I can't tell by looking at the replies above...


Calm down guys. The answer is completely obvious and very rational.

John said (to Nixon) that he was NEAR Cambodia, operating out of Ha Tien
along the Giang Thanh river that was known to everyone in Vietnam in the
Navy as "Bernique's Creek." Mike Bernique was the first to travel up it in
October 1968 to disrupt a VC tax collection site. This was the start of the
SEALORDS strategy.

There is NO WAY to get into Cambodia by water craft from either the
Giang Thanh or the follow-on Vinh Te canal that completes the water path
from Ha Tien over to Chau Doc on the Bassac river. O'Neill patrolled out
of Ha Tien, so he was close to Cambodia, but there is no way to cross
the border by boat from either of these waterways.

Kerry in the 44 boat was in Sa Dec on the Mekong River, fifty-five miles
away from the border, and in close to Saigon. Ha Tien is on the Gulf of
Thailand (Siam)

To satisfy your curiosity about the above, visit the following: Ha Tien

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Bob...excellent debunking.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone have a link to a transcript of either the Nixon tape or O'Neill's explanation? If so, please email me with it -- beldar*at*beldar.org. Thanks!
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