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LewWaters Admin
Joined: 18 May 2004 Posts: 4042 Location: Washington State
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 3:34 am Post subject: |
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By playing the rest of the tape, leftstream media will once again be left with nouc mam all over their faces
O'Neill told Colmes right out that he needed to read the very next sentence. Made Colmes look sort of inept, kind of like a little kid who just had his nyah nyah thrown right back at him. _________________ Clark County Conservative |
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cipher Vice Admiral
Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 902
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 3:42 am Post subject: |
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O'Neill was on a BOAT. That was his job, to be on the BOAT, not up on land. It is quite possible to be in Cambodia (as in "in Cambodian waters") and NOT be in Cambodia, and have both statements be true. Especially on the west coast. _________________ USMC 69-72, 7th Comm, 3rd MarDiv, FMFPAC
US Army 75-79, 97th Sig, SHAPE, NATO
Arkansas National Guard 79
Defense contractor for US Navy, SSPO, SP-20, SP-24, OP-12 84-92 |
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DaveL Commander
Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Posts: 300
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 3:43 am Post subject: |
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I just finished watching Hannity and Colmes on TiVo...John O'Neil seemed to make several convincing points regarding the newly reported comment he made in a taped conversation with Nixon about being in Cambodia himself: 1) His conversational comment was taken out of context. 2) That in the very next sentence he continued to say that he was "along the border". 3) That this took place in a very different area of Vietnam along the "west coat of Cambodia", not near the alleged Kerry incursion.
Cleary this was not a public, nor a prepared statement about being in or along the Cambodian border, it was simply a private conversation. |
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kmf Seaman Recruit
Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Posts: 23
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 4:03 am Post subject: |
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Even if O'Neil lied (not saying he did) about it, what difference does that make?
They can indepently corroborate the fact that John Kerry wasn't and that is what the real issue is.
The problem is that any time an issue pops up they attack the messenger and never look at the issue. |
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jfnk Ensign
Joined: 19 Aug 2004 Posts: 54
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 4:31 am Post subject: |
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Camp Kerry is afraid to send anyone out to go against O'Neill. This tells me that they think O'Neill comes across more credible than the Lanny Davises and Hurleys. O'Neill should be on H&C every night. Let him hammer away unopposed. |
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Integrity Seaman Apprentice
Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 92 Location: California
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 4:35 am Post subject: |
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I love the way that O'Neill makes Alan Colmes look like he's trying to pass a 40 pound brick out of his puckered cheeks. He always looks so constipated. Kind of like a weasel who ate 50 pounds of shredded bark. _________________ "What our enemies have begun, we will finish,"
- President George W. Bush |
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tvaughan Seaman
Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 182
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 4:44 am Post subject: |
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They were two different assignments for O'Neil as I understand it.
Kerry did not have the second assignment which was along the Cambodia river. Or at least nowhere near Christmas time.
But the key thing is this:
O'Neil never claimed that he never worked the Cambodia border. If he had denied that, then this might be a story.
This was a Democratic release. I think it shows again how complicit the networks are with DNC that they didn't even take the time to vet this before bringing this to air.
It was just a few days ago when the Root story was reported all over the nation to "contradict" the Swift Vets. That lasted as long as it took to actually read the article.
I believe the case is the same here.
"You said you were near the border!"
"Yes. That was where I was assigned"
"... oh."
Hardly a story. _________________ Talking point #1: Sign 180
Talking point #2: Sign 180
Talking point #3: Sign 180 |
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rbshirley Founder
Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 394
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 5:04 am Post subject: |
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CERDIP wrote: | So, how did O'Neill clear this up? I can't tell by looking at the replies above... |
Calm down guys. The answer is completely obvious and very rational.
John said (to Nixon) that he was NEAR Cambodia, operating out of Ha Tien
along the Giang Thanh river that was known to everyone in Vietnam in the
Navy as "Bernique's Creek." Mike Bernique was the first to travel up it in
October 1968 to disrupt a VC tax collection site. This was the start of the
SEALORDS strategy.
There is NO WAY to get into Cambodia by water craft from either the
Giang Thanh or the follow-on Vinh Te canal that completes the water path
from Ha Tien over to Chau Doc on the Bassac river. O'Neill patrolled out
of Ha Tien, so he was close to Cambodia, but there is no way to cross
the border by boat from either of these waterways.
Kerry in the 44 boat was in Sa Dec on the Mekong River, fifty-five miles
away from the border, and in close to Saigon. Ha Tien is on the Gulf of
Thailand (Siam)
To satisfy your curiosity about the above, visit the following: Ha Tien
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Me#1You#10 Site Admin
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 5:14 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Bob...excellent debunking. |
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Beldar Seaman Apprentice
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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Does anyone have a link to a transcript of either the Nixon tape or O'Neill's explanation? If so, please email me with it -- beldar*at*beldar.org. Thanks! |
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