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Hans Burkhardt · Ensign Joined: 05 Aug 2004 Posts: 53 Location: USA

April 4th, 1968; could that have been his "first tour of duty" on the Gridley? Sorry, don't have the timeline in front of me.

larrygj · Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 7:35 pm Post subject:

This Dem BS spin about Kerry "just repeating the hearsay of others" in his April, 1971 testimony before the Senate is truly precious. Kerry was the national spokesman for the Vietnam Veterans Against the War, second in command only to Al Hubbard (the guy who turned out not to be a Viet Nam Vet, by the way, who lied about his rank and service record -- see pp. 124-126 of UFC -- something Kerry apparently was very comfortable with). As national spokesman, Kerry was not mindlessly reporting what 150 other "vets" in Detroit had "alleged" (all the "Jen-jis" Khan stuff he summarized so dramatically in his pseudo-Jack Kennedy accent) -- he was testifying under oath that these people were telling the truth, and he was endorsing what they said, giving it his "war hero" stamp of approval. Kerry didn't make headlines with his testimony by appearing as a mere messenger. He wasn't there at the hearings as some kind of reporter for CBS or ABC. He was there to make sensational "news."

Fortunately we have Kerry's admission elsewhere that same year where he flat out calls himself a war criminal, cited in this thread. On this, also, see Ann Coulter's latest column, it is a zinger: http://www.anncoulter.org/: "Admitted War Criminal Cries Foul" -- ain't it the truth?

One aspect of an issue where I might agree with Kerry, i.e. trying to blow some life back into that corpse called the U.N.: let's get "multilateral" here and have the World Court in the Hague try Kerry for his admitted war crimes. There is no statute of limitations on war crimes. Hey, I'm a lawyer. If SBVT wants me to draft the complaint and file it with the World Court, I'd be glad to do it, free of charge.

Larry

larrygj · Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 9:12 pm Post subject:

Hans,

According to UFC, "January 2, 1968 - June 8, 1968. Gridley sails to Australia and returns to Long Beach, California." Martin Luther King was killed on April 4, 1968. So Kerry was somewhere in the Pacific or in or near Australia that day, not Nam. Meanwhile, here is a quote from ABC News' web site today:

kmudd · Master Chief Petty Officer Joined: 16 Aug 2004 Posts: 825

Kerry's senate testimony coming on now. C-span

Herb · Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 2:19 am Post subject:

The video is archived on the CSPAN web site too.

Note: The MSM is purposely confusing the Senate testimony and their mythic defense that he is "just repeating" what he heard. As a Naval Reserve officer he is still charged with reporting war crimes and with NOT making false charges during time of war.

They are ALSO confusing this with the "I committed" war crimes and atrocities which he offered in multiple national venues.

This must be SEPARATED if anyone gives an interview or goes on a talk show.

Kerry detailed unverified attrocities under oath.

AND Kerry SEPARATELY admitted his own war crimes and his OWN atrocities repeatedly.
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stealthy · Lieutenant Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 237

After watching this earlier, (it comes on again soon) I now understand why he thought he could just run on his 4 months there. It was his becoming a star. He was applauded, given standing Os while the Senators practically genuflected. It was the biggest moment of his life. That's why he's constantly refering to Vietnam when asked about mundane things. It defined his image of himself and how he should be treated.

He not only smeared his fellow servicemen, he smeared America. Not only was the war wrong, but criminal and all who took part were criminal AND racist. He played the race card several times. "This country" made them do it all those horrible things he outlined. One Senator just ask him if he had certain medals, then said no further questions to which cheers followed. It's no wonder he has behaved like he does now.
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USWORHOCKEY · Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 3:19 am Post subject:

Where is the other 1:15 of the hearings? Is there access to the full self serving platform speech?
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stealthy · Lieutenant Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 237

They said they had the full transcript, but not footage. Some of the missing footage was curious. It also said NBC owns it.

It's on again right now, tune in!
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Herb · Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 3:26 am Post subject:

stealthy · Lieutenant Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 237

I was going to listen to it again but I just can't. The open phones after are very interesting. Some of you might just want to call. Wink

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USWORHOCKEY · Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 3:44 am Post subject:

I hope I'm not alone with concern over the rest of his self serving speech? NBC having the footage is typical of the Left Media hiding the truth.
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