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fortdixlover
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 Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 2:17 pm Post subject: Big-mouthed radical loons at MoveOn.Org |
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Excerpt from http://www.RightMarch.com/ press release:
Sen. Zell Miller's offered a speech against the "Hand-Wringers of America":
"Those who are wringing their hands and shouting so
loudly for 'heads to roll' over this seem to have
conveniently overlooked the fact that someone's head
HAS rolled - that of another innocent American
brutally murdered by terrorists. Why is it? Why is
it that there's more indignation over a photo of a
prisoner with underwear on his head than over the
video of a young American with no head at all?"
One of the most prominent groups that's playing political "football" with the abuse of prisoners by some aberrant soldiers is none other than the socialist wannabes at MoveOn.org, who are now telling their minions to "demand" that President Bush FIRE Donald Rumsfeld.
Funny, we don't hear MoveOn "demanding" that President Bush HUNT DOWN and STRING UP the murderers that brutally decapitated American businessman Nicholas Berg. True to form, the radical leftists instead play into the hands of anti-American terrorists; as William Safire said in the NY Times, "This secretary of defense, who has the strong support of the president, is both effective and symbolic. If he were to quit under political fire, pressure would mount for America to quit under insurgent fire."
The vast majority of Americans agree. A recent ABCNEWS/Washington Post poll showed that 69% of respondents believe Sec. Rumsfeld should "keep his job". That *includes* 58% of all Democrats -- even Senators like Joe Lieberman (D-CT) said Rumsfeld should stay, stating that "Donald Rumsfeld's removal would delight foreign and domestic opponents of America's presence in Iraq."
The radical loons at MoveOn.org are obviously WAY out to the left of mainstream America... but they've got BIG mouths. |
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mikest
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| Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Published: May 17, 2004
Editorial: A failure of leadership at the highest levels
Around the halls of the Pentagon, a term of caustic derision has emerged for the enlisted soldiers at the heart of the furor over the Abu Ghraib prison scandal: the six morons who lost the war.
Indeed, the damage done to the U.S. military and the nation as a whole by the horrifying photographs of U.S. soldiers abusing Iraqi detainees at the notorious prison is incalculable.
But the folks in the Pentagon are talking about the wrong morons.
There is no excuse for the behavior displayed by soldiers in the now-infamous pictures and an even more damning report by Army Maj. Gen. Antonio Taguba. Every soldier involved should be ashamed.
But while responsibility begins with the six soldiers facing criminal charges, it extends all the way up the chain of command to the highest reaches of the military hierarchy and its civilian leadership.
The entire affair is a failure of leadership from start to finish. From the moment they are captured, prisoners are hooded, shackled and isolated. The message to the troops: Anything goes.
In addition to the scores of prisoners who were humiliated and demeaned, at least 14 have died in custody in Iraq and Afghanistan. The Army has ruled at least two of those homicides. This is not the way a free people keeps its captives or wins the hearts and minds of a suspicious world.
How tragically ironic that the American military, which was welcomed to Baghdad by the euphoric Iraqi people a year ago as a liberating force that ended 30 years of tyranny, would today stand guilty of dehumanizing torture in the same Abu Ghraib prison used by Saddam Hussein’s henchmen.
One can only wonder why the prison wasn’t razed in the wake of the invasion as a symbolic stake through the heart of the Baathist regime.
Army commanders in Iraq bear responsibility for running a prison where there was no legal adviser to the commander, and no ultimate responsibility taken for the care and treatment of the prisoners.
Gen. Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs, also shares in the shame. Myers asked “60 Minutes II” to hold off reporting news of the scandal because it could put U.S. troops at risk. But when the report was aired, a week later, Myers still hadn’t read Taguba’s report, which had been completed in March. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld also failed to read the report until after the scandal broke in the media.
By then, of course, it was too late.
Myers, Rumsfeld and their staffs failed to recognize the impact the scandal would have not only in the United States, but around the world.
If their staffs failed to alert Myers and Rumsfeld, shame on them. But shame, too, on the chairman and secretary, who failed to inform even President Bush.
He was left to learn of the explosive scandal from media reports instead of from his own military leaders.
On the battlefield, Myers’ and Rumsfeld’s errors would be called a lack of situational awareness — a failure that amounts to professional negligence.
To date, the Army has moved to court-martial the six soldiers suspected of abusing Iraqi detainees and has reprimanded six others.
Brig. Gen. Janis Karpinski, who commanded the MP brigade that ran Abu Ghraib, has received a letter of admonishment and also faces possible disciplinary action.
That’s good, but not good enough.
This was not just a failure of leadership at the local command level. This was a failure that ran straight to the top. Accountability here is essential — even if that means relieving top leaders from duty in a time of war.
— Military Times editorial, May 17 issue |
http://www.armytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-2903288.php |
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fortdixlover
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| Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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I think Mikest forgot to read the key section of my post.
I will reiterate:
The vast majority of Americans agree. A recent ABCNEWS/Washington Post poll showed that 69% of respondents believe Sec. Rumsfeld should "keep his job". That *includes* 58% of all Democrats -- even Senators like Joe Lieberman (D-CT) said Rumsfeld should stay, stating that "Donald Rumsfeld's removal would delight foreign and domestic opponents of America's presence in Iraq." |
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mikest
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| Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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| fortdixlover wrote: | I think Mikest forgot to read the key section of my post.
I will reiterate:
The vast majority of Americans agree. A recent ABCNEWS/Washington Post poll showed that 69% of respondents believe Sec. Rumsfeld should "keep his job". That *includes* 58% of all Democrats -- even Senators like Joe Lieberman (D-CT) said Rumsfeld should stay, stating that "Donald Rumsfeld's removal would delight foreign and domestic opponents of America's presence in Iraq." |
Gee, I thought this President didn't govern by polls. |
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fortdixlover
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| Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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| mikest wrote: | | fortdixlover wrote: | I think Mikest forgot to read the key section of my post.
I will reiterate:
The vast majority of Americans agree. A recent ABCNEWS/Washington Post poll showed that 69% of respondents believe Sec. Rumsfeld should "keep his job". That *includes* 58% of all Democrats -- even Senators like Joe Lieberman (D-CT) said Rumsfeld should stay, stating that "Donald Rumsfeld's removal would delight foreign and domestic opponents of America's presence in Iraq." |
Gee, I thought this President didn't govern by polls. |
Non sequitur. Your thoughts are uncoordinated.
Mikest, you missed the points in this thread entirely, and I am too busy to explain it to you. (It's obvious to most intelligent people). |
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Marine4life
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| Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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He will never see that the polls back what Bush is doing, not that he is doing what the polls say. He has moveon.org tunnel blinders. They plant a microchip in your head when you register democrat, and it's programmed to repeat the same old redundant Cr*p from the DNC. The battery should be getting low by now.
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Hesiod
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| Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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| As opposed to the big mouth radical loons who populate this smear job website? |
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Marine4life
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| Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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No profile, in the State Pen we used to call them CELL WARRIORS. Funny how they call us radical loon's but they stay around like stink on sh*t.
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hist/student
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| Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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retracted
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95 bxl
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| Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Hesiod wrote: | | As opposed to the big mouth radical loons who populate this smear job website? |
Being a little harsh on yourself and the other leftist Kerry supporters, aren't you? |
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Hesiod
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| Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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| 95 bxl wrote: | | Hesiod wrote: | | As opposed to the big mouth radical loons who populate this smear job website? |
Being a little harsh on yourself and the other leftist Kerry supporters, aren't you? |
So you admit that this website is one big anti-Kerry smear job?
I appreciate your honesty. |
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95 bxl
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| Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Hesiod wrote: | | 95 bxl wrote: | | Hesiod wrote: | | As opposed to the big mouth radical loons who populate this smear job website? |
Being a little harsh on yourself and the other leftist Kerry supporters, aren't you? |
So you admit that this website is one big anti-Kerry smear job?
I appreciate your honesty. |
So you admit to being a big mouth radical loon?
I appreciate your honesty. |
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