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Mooncusser
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Lie detectors don't work....especially with liars.
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MrBuzzcut
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The next ad should faeture the "Kerry Exhibit" in the "war crimes" museum in Vietnam ... actually, that would be best aired in late October. Devastating.
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mrhct
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| ccr wrote: | The biggest shocker is not that SBVT have not done a polygraph. The biggest shocker is that the Kerry team has not.
Why?
You can get the box to say whatever you want it to say -- especially when you are paying the examiner. Even if you aren't, you can train someone to beat the box in just a few hours.
The box also frequently calls people who are telling the absolute truth "deceptive" -- when they are not.
The value of a polygraph is nothing but theater. We've got the facts on our side. Why should we have to stoop to that -- especially when the other side can counter with even better theater. |
Really. I doubt the margin of error is as high as you elude to. If it where it would have been challenged long ago considering that just about every law enforcment agency requires one as part of the hiring process. I would agree there may be a small margin of error with one person, but what would that margin be for four people asked the same questions? I find it shocking that, if O'Neill and Co have all the facts, on the 13 March mission alone, they could have hung Kerry and been done with it. |
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ccr
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I don't want to get into the weeds here, but pre-employment is probably the most un-American and inacurate use of the box possible. Take a look at http://antipolygraph.org/ -- the bottom line is real people are hurt and the accuracy is only slightly better than a coin flip.
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mrhct
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| Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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| ccr wrote: | | I don't want to get into the weeds here, but pre-employment is probably the most un-American and inacurate use of the box possible. Take a look at http://antipolygraph.org/ -- the bottom line is real people are hurt and the accuracy is only slightly better than a coin flip. |
Very interesting site! So it would also be meaningless for Kerry to submit. |
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WalterW
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| Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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| ccr wrote: |
The value of a polygraph is nothing but theater. We've got the facts on our side. Why should we have to stoop to that -- especially when the other side can counter with even better theater. |
I agree. Unless and until JK signs the 180 and/or files a libel action, his honesty and integrity will remain in question in the minds of all fair Americans.
A polygraph accomplishes nothing. |
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mrhct
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| Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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| WalterW wrote: | | ccr wrote: |
The value of a polygraph is nothing but theater. We've got the facts on our side. Why should we have to stoop to that -- especially when the other side can counter with even better theater. |
I agree. Unless and until JK signs the 180 and/or files a libel action, his honesty and integrity will remain in question in the minds of all fair Americans.
A polygraph accomplishes nothing. |
A libel action is difficult to prove. |
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