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[Misty]

OMG. The idea of having to listen to Carville speak makes me want to throw up!
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Misty
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Dad was in the Navy Pacific Fleet
Brother was on the USS Regulus - Vietnam
Husband was AirForce 3rd (34th) Tactical Fighter Wing - Security Police Bien Hoa Vietnam

[tiptie]

IMHO many of the advisors to Kerry actually believed his lies about Vietnam. They never questioned his version.

This was one of the problems. If they had known how many lies were contained in his Vietnam resume then many of the “smart” ones could have planned on methods to minimize it.

They were blind-sided and Kerry is at fault for this "self-inflicted wound". In this wound, the blood is flowing all over the miscalculation of his campaign. Kerry definitely is showing the classic signs of a pathological liar that has repeated his Vietnam stories over and over again to the point that he believes them himself!

Swiftees! Please keep the pressure on until the end.

Please let all of us know how much money is needed.

We never want to hear that an ad, TV or print, could not run because of a lack of money.

Too much is at risk.

[rb325th]

Ahhh the desperate feelings of the Kerry Kamp are truely showing now. It is now readly apparent the "Real Powers" of the DNC are going to try and salvage the Campiaign. Just another indication that it is not Kerry running for President, but the DNC and Clintons.
It is going to be extremely hard for Kerry not to run on the platform he has since he began in the Primaries, his "differention" from the other Candidates was his Vietnam Service, the Convention was all about his Vietnam Service, he has not raised any other qualifiers besides his Vietnam Service.
If he switches now and attempts to run on his Senate Record he is absolutely toast. The other side has not made an issue of Kerrys Service (despite his lies to the contrary) other than to say it was Honorable. His Post Vietnam days are going to be hit on hard (despite his and MSNBCs partisan attempt to spin it last night) by many different quarters. His Senate record is one of absence, lack of leadership, and where he has made a stand it has been to the detriment of U.S. Intelligence, Defense and Foreign Policy!
Go ahead JFnKerry, try and paint yourself in a different light now!
Another note by not campaigning on his Vietnam days, won't he be admitting that it was not that noteworthy of an issue for him to base his Campaign on now?
Think the DNC realises that and probably has for some time/
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U.S. Army 1983-1995, 11C1P/11H2P NBTDT

[Jerry M]

What makes them think they can end the Vietnam focus? They have no control over it. The Swift boat vet ads put them on the defensive as will other well timed ads by other veterans groups. That is what sucked the oxygen out of their campaign in August and will continue to do so as long as the Swift boat vets and other groups stay on the offensive.

What is critically important now is that other veterans groups like Medal of Honor recipients, POW's, families of MIA/POW's join in with their own ads so it doesn't look like this is between one group and Kerry. It will be vitually impossible for them to defend against all of these groups unless they want to impugn the character of POW's and MOH recipients. That would definitely be political suicide.

[jack white]

Tiptie writes:

IMHO many of the advisors to Kerry actually believed his lies about Vietnam. They never questioned his version.

This was one of the problems. If they had known how many lies were contained in his Vietnam resume then many of the “smart” ones could have planned on methods to minimize it.

They were blind-sided and Kerry is at fault for this "self-inflicted wound".

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This is exactly what I think. Mary Beth Cahill and Company are one more in a long line of the victims of Kerry's lies. He sent them forth to mouth his falsehoods, and when that didn't work he blamed them for his problem. This is his MO. What a tiny, tiny, tiny man.

[sevry]

[minnie presley]

we need to start the pressure again, just saw on fox kerry's band of vietnam borthers campaigning for him in WV, talking about jobs , also apparently he called clinton before he went into surgery, and clinton told him to get off vietnam and stat talking about jobs, obviously clinton has not got a clue, this is not like when he was trying to dodge vietnam this is not gioing away PRESSUR PRESSURE PRESSURE

[Boundless]

The headlines about Clinton's advice to Kerry to
"stop talking about Vietnam" may also have been
coded orders to the Pravda Press.

I wouldn't be too surprised if the MSM stops mentioning
Vietnam altogether; even stops the gratuitous content-
free bashing of the SBVFT.

Frankly, it might help Kerry a bit if they did this, but
it won't save him, because the New Media is not
about to drop this story.

[Chuck Z Ombie AC2000]

There is no way Kerry will drop the vietnam platform. If you took that away, what is there? 19 years of voting against defense spending and flipflopping?

As an article this week pointed this week, Kerry is caught in a trap. Clinton could give advice all day becuase he is a real draft dodger and doesnt think vietnam is an important issue and he built his rep through politics. Kerry's entire career is vietnam.
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John Kerry, R.I.P. (Rot In Paris)

[Hammer2]

[Mooncusser]

John "Benedict Arnolds" personality will not let him lose focus on Vietnam.

It was the only war he was in. The only stage of his heroism.

He is Don Quixote, a knight in shining armor, a champion, a Greek god.

He will never let go of it, without medication.
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MACV '64...65
Thu Thua, Long An

I actually won the election before I lost it.

"It is a good day to fight! It is a good day to die! Strong hearts, brave hearts to the front! Weak hearts and cowards to the rear!" (Crazy Horse)

[jack white]

Let us accomodate the good senator and focus on Paris circa 1971.

[zinfella]

[Boundless]

MC: > John "Benedict Arnolds" personality will not let
> him lose focus on Vietnam.

One word: "seared"

> It was the only war he was in. The only stage of his heroism.

When Kerry discovered that a nice reasonably safe open
water "PT-109" interdiction assignment had turned into an
extremely dangerous draw-fire river mission (SEALORD),
that got his full attention.

Perhaps for the first time in his life, matters were very
far from entirely under his control. You can bet he fixates
on that period. I see a report on this site that Kerry was
17 days late reporting for duty on PCFs. Had he learned
about SEALORD, and its implications, before arriving?

Now for the second time, matters are again out of his
control (the election results), and it will be fascinating
to watch how he handles it.

[zinfella]