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Hesiod · Former Member Joined: 08 May 2004 Posts: 49

The United States Navy, today, sent a Cease and Desist letter to the political group "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth" asking them to stop using the U.S. Navy logo on their website, and misrepresenting themselves as being officially affliated or endorsed by the Navy.*

"We have a long tradition of remaining absolutely neutral in political matters," said Navy Spokesman Captain James Meyerson. "More importantly, it's a violation of federal law for the Navy to endorse any political campaign or cause," according to Meyerson.

Critics of the political group note that it is particularly ironic that it misused the Navy logo on its website, while at the same time sending the Kerry campaign its own "cease and desist" letter asking him to stop using a group photo from Kerry's Vietnam stint that shows a number of the group's members.

"They're a bunch of political hacks who only care about smearing John Kerry and proppiong up George W. Bush," said a source close to the Bush campaign who is insufferably pleased with how gullible and stupid the Swift Boat group has turned out to be, and only spoke on condition that his name not be used. "Boy, are they fools. We are slashing veterans benefts left and right in the next budget once the President gets re-elected. And these suckers are doing our dirty work for free!"

The Kerry campaign refused to comment, citing more important issues like the continuing problematic occupation in Iraq, spiraling health care costs, insufficient job creation, and a ballooning federal budget defecit, that are occupying the candidate and the campaign's time.

*This is a spoof article

Saint · Lt.Jg. Joined: 02 Jun 2004 Posts: 144

Actually I think this is something they should look into as every so called "veteran" I have seen posting on here in regards to this "site" is a disgrace to the men and women who serve this great country. You people are not even dignified to give or recieve a hoooah. Confused

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Saint · Lt.Jg. Joined: 02 Jun 2004 Posts: 144

ASPB · Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 2:06 am Post subject:

The Best response to these trolls is not to respond. Try it for a couple of days and I think they’ll go away. Just an opinion!

Regards.
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Hesiod · Former Member Joined: 08 May 2004 Posts: 49

I find it interesting that nobody from SBVFT or its supporters cared to address the point of my spoof post.

Namely the blatant hypocrisy with which the group shamelessly uses the US Navy logo on their website, and then asks John Kerry to cease and desist using a photo from his own collection in one of his campaign ads because the bitter old politoical hacks in the photo changed their minds about John Kerry when it looked like he was about to bump off George W. Bush in the 2004 election.

morfdq · Ensign Joined: 24 May 2004 Posts: 74

You dont get it ASPB, we are not going away. We will be here until Bush is voted out. See this is how it works for every 1 thing you post about Bush we find 30 things that he has done wrong. The fact is that you will run out of positive things to say before we run out of negative.

waltjones · Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 2:14 pm Post subject: it's about Kerry, numbnuts ...

Kerry = liar, slanderer, no honor. That's what this is about. End of story.
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Greenhat · LCDR Joined: 09 May 2004 Posts: 405

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colmurph · Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 1:39 am Post subject:

Saint · Lt.Jg. Joined: 02 Jun 2004 Posts: 144

Armorer · Seaman Recruit Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Posts: 14

Oh for crying out loud... OK, I'll respond to your quasi-article... not that it rates one BECAUSE IT'S FAKE! Satire, like your "spoof", as you may know is protected by the first amendment, the unauthorized use of an individual's likeness is not, particularly if it is used to construe endorsement.

"Appropriation of the Commercial Value of a Person's Identity: The Right of Publicity
One who appropriates the commercial value of a person's identity by using without consent the person's name, likeness, or other indicia of identity for purposes of trade is subject to liability for the relief appropriate under the rules stated in §§ 48 and 49."

The gentlemen in the photo have not given their consent and more to the point have asked that the use of their likeness be stopped. To my knowledge the Navy has not made any efforts towards the same as regards the Navy crest.

On the other hand... I can't seem to find any order or regulation regarding the use of the Navy "logo" (those of us with pride like to call it a crest). This is not to say that there isn't one out there. The military is very fond of regulations and if it were me I would definately have some sort of reg. But there's a famous four word sentence used by NCOs everywhere when some one comes complaining that their practices aren't fair... "Show me the order." So, if you want to complain, the burden of proof is on you... show me the order. Then when you're all squared away and we've discussed the pertinant facts like grown ups we can come to some conclusion. That's something we can't do with only a "spoof" (see also: lie). American Heritage defines "spoof" as follows:
NOUN:
1. Nonsense; tomfoolery.
2. A hoax.
3. A gentle satirical imitation; a light parody.
TRANSITIVE VERB: Inflected forms: spoofed, spoof·ing, spoofs
1. To deceive.
2. To do a spoof of; satirize gently.

Now how, exactly, are we supposed to have any sort of coherent debate about a "spoof". That's like basing your foreign policy decisions on The Daily Show... like the DNC.
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