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montanaguard Seaman Recruit
Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 11
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 9:10 pm Post subject: Boston Globe Questions Bush's National Guard Service |
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Not all is quiet on the western front.
Looks like Bush's attendance was perhaps a bit spotty.
For what its worth I have copied from Yahoo News the article below:
[New Questions Raised on Bush Military Record
2 hours, 5 minutes ago Add Top Stories - Reuters to My Yahoo!
By Greg Frost
BOSTON (Reuters) - President Bush (news - web sites) fell short of meeting his military obligations during the Vietnam War and was not disciplined despite irregular attendance at required training drills, The Boston Globe said on Wednesday.
In a probe of the president's service in the Texas Air National Guard, the newspaper said Bush appeared to have broken his contract with the U.S. government by not joining an Air Force Reserve unit when he moved to Massachusetts from Texas in mid-1973.
The military records of Bush and of his Democratic opponent John Kerry (news - web sites), who was decorated for service in Vietnam, have featured prominently in the campaign for the presidential election on Nov. 2.
Republicans have made Bush's leadership of what he calls a global war on terrorism central to his campaign.
In February, the White House released hundreds of pages of Bush's military records that showed he was absent for long periods of his final two years of National Guard duty but said nonetheless he met service requirements.
However, the Globe focused on documents Bush signed in 1968 and 1973 in which he pledged to meet training commitments or face a punitive call-up to active duty.
The Globe said in July 1973, before Bush left Houston to attend Harvard Business School, he signed a document saying: "It is my responsibility to locate and be assigned to another Reserve forces unit or mobilization augmentation position. If I fail to do so, I am subject to involuntary order to active duty for up to 24 months... "
Bush spokesman Dan Bartlett told the Washington Post in 1999 that the future president had served at a Boston-area Air Force Reserve unit after leaving Houston. But Bush never joined a Boston-area unit, the Globe said.
"I must have misspoke," Bartlett, now White House communications director, was quoted as telling the Globe in a recent interview.
"HONORABLE DISCHARGE"
White House spokeswoman Claire Buchan, responding to the Globe report on Wednesday, said, "The president was honored to serve his country. He met his obligations, and was honorably discharged."
The Globe also looked at a 1968 pledge by Bush in which he committed to "satisfactory participation" in Guard training.
But the newspaper said he performed no service over a six-month period in 1972 and nearly a three-month stretch in 1973 -- erratic attendance that could have prompted his superiors to discipline him or order him to active duty in 1972, 1973 or 1974.
Instead, Bush's unit certified in late 1973 that his service had been "satisfactory," the Globe said.
The National Guard and reserves, rarely called up during the Vietnam War, came to be regarded as "draft havens for relatively affluent young white men," the Air National Guard says in a history on its Internet site.
Former Texas Lt. Gov. Ben Barnes, a Democrat, is scheduled to appear on CBS' "60 Minutes" on Wednesday night to discuss how he helped Bush get into the Guard in 1968, the network said.
In a videotaped speech recently posted on the Internet, Barnes told an Austin, Texas political rally: "I got a young man named George W. Bush into the National Guard when I was lieutenant governor of Texas and I'm not necessarily proud of that ... I thought that's what people should do when you're in office: You help rich people."
The Pentagon (news - web sites) on Tuesday released 17 pages of what it called newly found records that showed Bush flew 336 hours in a fighter jet, most recently in April 1972, and ranked 22nd out of 53 pilots when he finished flight training at Moody Air Force Base in Georgia in 1969.
The pages did not resolve the dispute over whether Bush completed the service as required.
Democratic National Committee (news - web sites) Chairman Terry McAuliffe said the details about Bush's service undermined his credibility. "These new documents show that the president did not serve honorably," McAuliffe said, accusing Bush of either lying about his record or suffering "some kind of severe memory loss."
A pro-Kerry group, Texans for Truth, plans to run television commercials this week questioning Bush's Guard attendance. A group backing Bush, Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, has said in its own commercials that Kerry lied about his Vietnam war record.
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Wish this issue wasn't still out there haunting GWB.
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VLocher Seaman Recruit
Joined: 08 Sep 2004 Posts: 2
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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I've found this article which explains President Bush's National Guard service. Check it out:
http://www.chronwatch.com/content/contentDisplay.asp?aid=9259
This effort by CBS, NY Times, and the Boston Globe has failed every time, because there is absolutely no evidence to prop up their theory. Just another sign of how desperate they and the Kerry campaign are. |
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rb325th Admiral
Joined: 21 Aug 2004 Posts: 1334
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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The Barnes issue is being discussed in another topic in Geedunk, where it is pointed out he was not Lt. Govenor until 1969. There are many other holes especially with the appearance of the retired Colonel who President Bush reported to in Alabama.
This is nothing more than a hatchet job and ignoring of other information that proves the claims false.
I will be moving this Topic to Geedunk shortly, this has no bearing on the mattero f Kerry and his record of deceipt, self inflation, and his heinous actions after his return from Vietnam. _________________ U.S. Army 1983-1995, 11C1P/11H2P NBTDT |
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four-niner delta Lt.Jg.
Joined: 20 Aug 2004 Posts: 134 Location: Burbank, CA
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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I don't care what Bush did in the ANG! The media just does not GET IT! What Kerry said and did AFTER the war is what counts. And what the President has done since 9/11, his steadfast and unwavering war against terrorists in Afghanistan, Iraq and elsewhere, his clarity is what is important NOW. _________________ Gary Armitstead
Burbank, CA
U.S. Army Vietnam 1966-67 Mekong Delta
Mobile Riverine Force
A Co. 3/60 9th INF DIV |
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msindependent Vice Admiral
Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 891 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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Kerry is still a traitor. |
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Boundless Seaman Apprentice
Joined: 29 Aug 2004 Posts: 93
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:34 am Post subject: The BG is part of the Pravda Press |
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> The media just does not GET IT!
No, you don't get the legacy media. Here are some
remarks from a now-locked duplicate thread on this.
Everyone needs to know this, as the Boston Globe
will continue to run predominantly pro-Kerry articles.
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My understanding is that the BG is owned by the New
York Times. So what does that mean?
To me, that means that the NYT uses the BG to run
stories that the "Gray Lady" doesn't want to lead
with, because they are even less reputable stories
than the propaganda the NYT does run.
Once the BG has run it, the NYT can "distance itself"
from the story by starting with a disclaimer:
"The Boston Globe today reported ..."
So, yes, add the BG to your personal list of hopelessly
corrupt "legacy media" outlets.
However, their archives have been useful sources of
unintended admissions about Kerry's past and
motivation, like the infamous Kranish expose:
http://www.boston.com/globe/nation/packages/kerry/061603.shtml |
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speakswiftly Former Member
Joined: 09 Sep 2004 Posts: 1
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 3:56 am Post subject: |
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Moderator Note:
This forum was designed to facilitate the discussion of the Swift Boat Veterans For Truth strong conviction that John Kerry is unfit to serve as Commander-In-Chief.
If your defense of John Kerry can only be couched in rhetoric denigrating the fitness of another candidate or within issues unrelated to our conviction, then we suggest that you find another venue for that expression.
Thank you
P.S. You, perhaps, failed to comprehend this message the last time you were banned |
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