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fortdixlover · Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:49 pm Post subject: CBS Bush Memos

"Memos" presented by CBS/60 Minutes as allegedly from the early 1970's on Bush National Guard service are likely fraudulent. They are apparently in a proportional font.

Is this going to be the straw that breaks 60 Minutes', CBS's and the Boston Globe's backs?

Proportionally-spaced fonts are a modern development [clarification: for people in the field, see below]. Yes, the MSM is negligent and ignorant enough to not realize this.

The story is at http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/09/08/60II/main641984.shtml

The early 1970's documents are at

http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/BushGuardmay4.pdf
http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/BushGuardmay19.pdf
http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/BushGuardaugust1.pdf
http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/BushGuardaugust18.pdf

-- FDL

The sixty-first minute

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/007760.php

Today's big Boston Globe story on President Bush's Air National Guard service is based on memos to file from the personal records of the late Lieutenant Colonel Jerry B. Killian: "Bid cited to boost Bush in Guard."

The Globe story is itself based on last night's 60 Minutes report: "New questions on Bush Guard duty." The online version of the 60 Minutes story has links to the memos. Killian died in 1984; CBS states that it "consulted a handwriting analyst and document expert who believes the material is authentic." Reader Tom Mortensen writes:

Every single one of the memos to file regarding Bush's failure to attend a physical and meet other requirements is in a proportionally spaced font, probably Palatino or Times New Roman. In 1972 people used typewriters for this sort of thing (especially in the military), and typewriters used mono-spaced fonts.

The use of proportionally spaced fonts did not come into common use for office memos until the introduction high-end word processing systems from Xerox and Wang, and later of laser printers, word processing software, and personal computers. They were not widespread until the mid to late 90's.

Before then, you needed typesetting equipment, and that wasn't used for personal memos to file. Even the Wang and other systems that were dominant in the mid 80's used mono-spaced fonts. I doubt the TANG had typesetting or high-end 1st generation word processing systems.

I am saying these documents are forgeries, run through a copier for 15 generations to make them look old. This should be pursued aggressively.

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You GottaBeKidding · Rear Admiral Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 692

FDL,

Proportionally-spaced fonts are NOT a modern development. Perusal of old typeset manuscripts will prove that.

However, access to proportionally-spaced fonts by anyone outside the typesetting world IS a modern development.

Hate to pick nits, but let's be careful with this.

fortdixlover · Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:58 pm Post subject:

Nomorelies · Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 2:09 pm Post subject:

IT IS A FRAUD!!!!

Take a look at the document on August 18th. He uses a superscript "th" after the 18 date. This was NEVER accomplished on a typewriter to my knowledge. Did typewriters have a superscript "TH" in 1972?
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They "are liars" they are, "nut case "liberals"", it is a "mental

problem", and when caught in a lie, a fraud, a whatever

they just smile and do it the next "nite lie" or meet the "piss"

or "OLD MONK BURNING".

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THEMSELFS , LET THEM HAVE AT IT.
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fortdixlover · Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 2:24 pm Post subject:

Wit · Seaman Recruit Joined: 08 Sep 2004 Posts: 19

I was an E9 in 1973. My unit was tasked to write a new curriculum. This was going to be submitted to CNO office for final approval. To make the material look better we bought a word processor. This word processor cost the Government $60,000. We had to have waves go to school just to learn how to use the word processor. The only thing this word processor was used for was the final draft that was sent to CNO Office.
In 1981 I was working for IBM and the development of the first IBM PC. The first units did not have word processing. I don’t think that WYSISYG ( What You See Is What You Get) word processing came about until about 1985.
I do know that when I had to write memos in 1982, I would hand write them and have the secretary type them up.

fortdixlover · Last edited by fortdixlover on Thu Sep 09, 2004 2:39 pm; edited 1 time in total

Papa Yolk · Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 2:39 pm Post subject: Fake?

Not proof of MSM fraud, but proof of MSM blinded by their biases if feed fraudulent docs. If fake docs, the Fed. should investigate.

fortdixlover · Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 2:40 pm Post subject: Re: Fake?

Me#1You#10 · Site Admin Joined: 06 May 2004 Posts: 6503

Please continue this discussion in the following ongoing topic..

Feel free to copy/paste your observations there.

http://www2.swiftvets.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=8487

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