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paulklenk · Seaman Recruit Joined: 09 Sep 2004 Posts: 1

YouGottaBeKidding is RIGHT ON THE MONEY! Not only are line breaks ABSOLUTELY identical to a Word document with 1.25" margins and size 12 Times New Roman...

...but also the characters from line to line ALIGN themselves exactly like a Word document. The periods in each sentence and letters in each word appear EXACTLY below the same characters in each document.

This can't be a coincidence. I have a lot of word processing and some typesetting experience, and have a very, very sensitive eye for these details.

Nomorelies · Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 7:23 pm Post subject:

I'm so happy I'm doing the happy dance around my computer.
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ASPB · Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 7:24 pm Post subject:

Thanks Paul,

Write to the Media! All of them!
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hijole · Seaman Recruit Joined: 09 Sep 2004 Posts: 3

As some who has done a lot of typing on typewriters, old-fashioned word processors, and in current word processing programs, I'd like to point out the dead giveaway.

The standard in the 60s, 70s, and 80s (and well into the 90s) was two spaces after a period. That was the professional standard, and everyone used it. Email changed things, but just about any typed document from the 1970s, and certainly official correspondence (even a memo of this type), would have had two spaces after each period. There's only one space after each period here.

You GottaBeKidding · Rear Admiral Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 692

Paul,

If you have time, would you look at all four of my PDFs and compare them to the alleged official documents?

I have many years of basic dtp experience, but not professional. I do professional word processing and have been working with proportional print since WordStar on CP/M (when you had to patch the printer driver!) and I have some experience with fonts (have designed a couple or three special-purpose fonts) but am definitely not an expert.

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ASPB · Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 7:31 pm Post subject:

truthhunter · Seaman Recruit Joined: 06 Sep 2004 Posts: 17

Great work everyone! As for myself, I have never written a letter to a news outlet or talk show before, but early this morning when this thread really caught fire, I got off my butt and emailed Drudge and some other media outlets. It looks like we are making a difference as the media gets slammed with people from this board demanding this story be reported.

Let's not stop now. I would encourage everyone to email and or call at least one major media outlet demading this story be investigated. We need to keep the pressure on.

hijole · Seaman Recruit Joined: 09 Sep 2004 Posts: 3

ASPB · Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 7:36 pm Post subject:

Totally Agreed! My secretary, and later, executive assistant is who taught me. God rest her soul.
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You GottaBeKidding · Rear Admiral Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 692

Guys and gals,

There are TWO spaces after the period in these documents. I know 'cause I typed copies. I use one space only, but most people still use two. I figured that two were used, and that's correct.

It doesn't look like two because these are proportional spaces so they are very narrow but there definitely are two spaces, except after on of the periods following a number in the memo with four numbered items.

Nomorelies · Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 7:45 pm Post subject:

It's on Drudge at http://www.drudgereport.com/

Top of the page above the banner. Developing story....

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Hugh was included in the media blast of over 300 media contacts

Debs · Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 7:53 pm Post subject:

To me, the dead giveaway is the superscript and the obvious way the typist was trying to overcome the automatic superscript put in by a word processor - but she missed a couple and they gave her away. I worked in a state-supported university here in Texas in the late sixties and early seventies and no typewriter we had would put in an automatic superscript. I am assuming, but just a guess, that the TANG probably had similar typewriters to what we used, and, to me, the superscript is a dead giveaway, but then there seem to be lots of other factors pointing to these being forgeries, as the way they align with Word Documents when they are typed on Word. Also, I think if these were copied over and over again, copies made from copies, reapeatedly to make them look older, then the ones on the CBSNews website could be 10th, 11th, or 100th generation copies of copies, and there might be a bit of discrepency in perfect alignment with copies done on Word. Just a thought.

Also, I read on another thread that the White House released these documents AFTER THEY WERE SENT TO THEM BY CBSNEWS!! Is this correct and is there no independent verification by the White House of the authenticity of these documents???

Debbie
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