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baldeagl
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:13 pm    Post subject: And some think that Vietnam doesn't matter Reply with quote

Hello Everyone, I am taking time to ask you all for your help. First off, I'd like to say that this is not a political message. I'm not concerned about domestic politics right now. We have much bigger things to deal with, and we need your help.

It seems that despite the tremendous and heroic efforts of the men and women serving here in Iraq to bring much needed peace and stability to this region, we are losing the war of perception with the media and American people. Our enemy has learned that the key to defeating the mighty American military is by swaying public opinion at home and abroad.

We are a people that cherish the democratic system of government and therefore hold the will of the people in the highest regard. We love to criticize ourselves almost to an endless degree, because we care what others think. Our enemies see this as a weakness and are trying to exploit it. When we ask ourselves questions like, "Why do they hate us?" or "What did we do wrong?" we are playing into our enemies' hands.

Our natural tendency to question ourselves is being used against us to undermine our effort to do good in the world. How far would we have gotten if after the surprise attacks on December 7, 1941 at Pearl Harbor, we would have asked, "Why do the Japanese hate us so much?" or "How can we change ourselves so that they won't do that again?"

Here in Iraq the enemy is trying very hard to portray our efforts as failing and fruitless. They purposely kill innocents and desecrate their bodies in hopes that the people back home will lose the will to fight for liberty. They are betting on our perceived weakness as a thoughtful, considerate people. Unfortunately our media only serves to further their cause.

In an industry that feeds on ratings and bad news, a failure in Iraq would be a goldmine. When our so-called "trusted" American media takes a quote from an Iraqi doctor as the gospel truth over that of the men and women that are daily fighting to protect the right to freedom of press, you know something is wrong.

That doctor claimed that out of 600 Iraqis that were casualties of the fighting, the vast majority of them were women, children and the elderly. This is totally absurd. In the history of man, no one has spent more time and effort, often to the detriment of our own mission, to be more discriminate in our targeting of the enemy than the American military.

The Marines and Soldiers serving in Iraq have gone through extensive training in order to limit the amount of innocent casualties and collateral damage. Yet, despite all of this, our media consistently sides with those who openly lie and directly challenge the honor of our brave heroes fighting for liberty and peace.

What we have to remember is that peace is not defined as an absence of war. It is the presence of liberty, stability and prosperity. In the face of the horrendous tyranny of the former Iraqi regime, the only way true peace was able to come to this region was through force. That is what the American Revolution was all about. Have we forgotten? Freedom is not free and "peace" without principle is not peace.

The peace that so-called "peace advocates" support can only be brought to Iraq through the use ofmilitary force . And we are doing it, if only the world will let us! If the American people believe we are failing, even if we are not, then we will ultimately fail. That is why I am asking for your support. Become a voice of truth in your community. Wherever you are fight the lies of the enemy. Don't buy into the pessimism and apathy that says, "It's hopeless," "They hate us too much," "That part of the world is just too messed up," "It's our fault anyway," "We're to blame," and so forth.

Whether you're in middle school, working at a 9-5 job, retired, or a stay-at-home Mom you can make a huge difference! There is nothing more powerful than the truth. So, when you watch the news and see doomsday predictions and spiteful opinions on our efforts over here, you can refute them by knowing that we are doing a tremendous amount of good.

Spread the word. No one is poised to make such an amazing contribution to the everyday lives of Iraqis and the rest of the Arab world than the American Armed Forces. By making this a place where liberty can finally grow, we are making the whole world safer.

Your efforts at home are directly tied to our success. You are the soldiers at home fighting the war of perception. So I'm asking you as a fellow fighting man: do your duty. Stop the attempts of the enemy wherever you are. You are a mighty force for good, because truth is on your side. Together we will win this fight and ensure a better world for the future.

God Bless and Semper Fidelis,
1st. Lt. Robert L. Nofsinger USMC Ramadi, Iraq
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:26 pm    Post subject: ? when we fininsh with Lt. Kerry do you want him Reply with quote

He has a set of "rubber band" dog tags for "recon" missions

He has a "magic hat" from a CIA man

He has "experiance" at "GUN RUNNING" ????

He has his old pal, the "flying dog" for air cover

He for sure can LIE out of any "ambush" you get into.


or you can just let him go out to pasture

you guys call
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And, he can do it all in under 21 days.

Now as for Baldeagle: I agree very strongly with what you wrote. The leftists and their media and Kerry are working hand-in-hand---although it is a non-provable "observation"---with terrorists and Baathists in Iraq by communicating continuous messages that are anti-American and anti-military, giving them, in the words of an old Randy Newman (don't support his politics) song, "You Can Leave Your Hat On:"

"You give me reason to live, you give me reason to live..."

And I do remember what those words were really in regard to.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 10:59 pm    Post subject: Re: And some think that Vietnam doesn't matter Reply with quote

baldeagl wrote:
Hello Everyone, I am taking time to ask you all for your help. First off, I'd like to say that this is not a political message. I'm not concerned about domestic politics right now. We have much bigger things to deal with, and we need your help.

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The Marines and Soldiers serving in Iraq have gone through extensive training in order to limit the amount of innocent casualties and collateral damage. Yet, despite all of this, our media consistently sides with those who openly lie and directly challenge the honor of our brave heroes fighting for liberty and peace.

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The peace that so-called "peace advocates" support can only be brought to Iraq through the use ofmilitary force . And we are doing it, if only the world will let us! If the American people believe we are failing, even if we are not, then we will ultimately fail. That is why I am asking for your support. Become a voice of truth in your community. Wherever you are fight the lies of the enemy. Don't buy into the pessimism and apathy that says, "It's hopeless," "They hate us too much," "That part of the world is just too messed up," "It's our fault anyway," "We're to blame," and so forth.

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God Bless and Semper Fidelis,
1st. Lt. Robert L. Nofsinger USMC Ramadi, Iraq
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Robert, thank you for serving so that I can feel safe at home.
The day our soldiers started fighting in Afghanistan my husband
and I raised the flag and put a spotlight on it for night time.
It will stay up until our soldiers come home. I also started
writing letters to my congressmen, the newspapers, and media.
I am recovering from a stroke or I'd be on a street corner
yelling at the time of my lungs at any protestor I saw.
I, other wives of vets, vets and most Americans will fight
for you here at home - we stand beside you and your family.
We will not allow the media to get away with the garbage
reporting they did in Vietnam. The Americans were duped
then and did not realize the socialist and communist parties
that supported the anti-war movements - they do now.
For now, we are trying to expose Kerry and what he did
regarding Vietnam because he will do it again, but you
are not forgotten. Our vets have your backs here at home.
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SandiM
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Baldeagle: great post. Please know that you have many, many supporters not just in the US of A, but around the world, and we're not sitting on our hands. As this Kerry issue has proved conclusively, there is no longer any need to rely on the MSM to report the truth and no one is more shocked and awed than they are at the results that have been, and are still being achieved. Blessing on you all.

Becky et al: here's a great way to get the word out on what our troops are really accomplishing

http://www.untoldiraq.org/index.cfm
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Baldeagle,

one way that an Army Major is keeping our local community in the loop is by sending us a quick journal of his day's events and true stories of insurgents tacticts through the email. Perhaps you and all your troops, when you can find a few minutes in your already crazy schedule could send little reports back to your friends and families just to let them know the real stories. You'd be surprised how quickly the words get out when your friends and family members start forwarding them out.

In fact, I'm sure the administrators wouldn't mind you posting your stories on this site. You can count on me doing my part to get you and your troops word out.

My prayers are with you and your troops, take care.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ashter
I'm with you. Open the link in the post before yours. Also see the topic 'SHOCK and AWE of a different kind' in geedunk. Plenty of good fodder there to get started. My hope is that everyone here will send the link to all in their address book and ask them to to do the same. It's way past time that the general public heard these stories.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robert,

I live in Jacksonville, the home of Camp Lejeune, a place with which
I am sure you are very familiar. Your words are so true! Even here,
where we love our Marines and the large majority of the community
supports you 100%, there are those that think we should "bring the
troops home" without finishing the job.

Our pastor is the brigade chaplain for about 5000 NC National Guard
troops who have been in Iraq since the end of February and will be
deployed until March 2005. We are blessed that he will be returning
as our pastor (a miracle in itself in the Methodist church), but we are
also blessed to have his newsletter entries that are filled with good
news from Iraq. Although his role is NOT to convert Iraqis but to minister
to the spiritual needs of "his guys", he tells us that the Iraqis that are
training at the same base love to come to their worship services. Even
though they may not understand the words, they love the music and
the warm reception they get from the worshipers.

May God bless and protect you as you complete your mission in Iraq.

Semper Fi!
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