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Paul Woll Lt.Jg.
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:40 am Post subject: |
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Can we get access to their computers to see if we can find the documents on the hard drives? I would think there should be an investigation to see if they were created on those computers. |
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Nomorelies Vice Admiral
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 977 Location: Texas
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:40 am Post subject: |
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Spiess Lieutenant
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:41 am Post subject: |
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I didnt believe these guys could be this stupid. I was wrong so keeping this in mind if they try to hang this on Burkett, I have to say he lives on the same block as Kerry, he is a big fundraiser for the Kerry campaign,. well if they are that dumb dosnt that place it dangerously close to Kerry?
seems to me that implicates Kerry Immediatly/.
You have the right to free speech, I have the right to hold you accountable. |
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RobD Lt.Jg.
Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Posts: 147 Location: Reno Nv
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:42 am Post subject: |
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I would bet money that the Bush campain will not allow an investagation to start during the election, after maybe, but not during. All an investigation would do is open up a bigger can of worms. Maybe that is what the dems want? _________________ 6 Year Navy |
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docford Lt.Jg.
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 149
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:43 am Post subject: |
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I don't want to get off topic too much, but blame the activist prosecutors and judges from the Clinton administration for expanding RICO. Congress never intended the statute to be used for anything but drug conspiracies.
The unfortunate thing at this point is that (1) Congress has no incentive to change the statute to limit coverage, and (2) since the incorrect interpretation is put there, prosecutors feel compelled to follow suit and expand the law as far as they can. _________________ Doc Ford
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reconflyer Seaman
Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 168 Location: West Texas USA
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:49 am Post subject: |
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Man, this is bizarre.
Burkett is a looney toon.
He has a well publicized and documented axe to grind.
And, he was obviously Army Guard and not Air Guard.
What did he know about the case?
The real story here is that CBS ran with it.
What a bunch of maroons.
reconflyer _________________ Active duty AF 1986-Present
Enlisted Aircrew 1990-Present |
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Aristotle The Hun PO1
Joined: 18 Aug 2004 Posts: 488 Location: Naples FL
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:50 am Post subject: |
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docford wrote: | Sometimes having a law degree comes in handy.
If the fraudulent documents were sent by fax over phone lines that cross state lines (that is, interstate commerce) that equals WIRE FRAUD. Major federal offense!!!!! |
But do we know that the memos actually crossed state lines? I seem to remember hearing that a CBS producer flew to Texas to meet with the source of the documents.
Sam _________________ Deportè Monsieur Kerrè |
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kennyd1165 Seaman Recruit
Joined: 10 Sep 2004 Posts: 16
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:50 am Post subject: Mr. Burkett and His Attorney |
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Note that the Washington Post cites Van Os as Burkett's Attorney. Looks Like Van Os once ran for the Texas democratic chairmanship with the strong support of Bill Burkett. Burkett is an acknowledged democrat active enough in the party to be involved in the selection of the state chairmanship a few years ago. This provides a Democratic link, not some disgruntled TANG officer.
Links to two emails from Burkett a few years ago regarding Texas Chairmanship:
http://www.geocities.com/stoutdem/bb527.html
http://www.geocities.com/stoutdem/bb525.html
Also, the democrat link is even stronger...
It looks like Burkett's attorney, Mr Van Os is running for Texas Supreme court as a democrat and speaks on his web page about Karl Rove's Desire to take the government away from the people. etc. Again, he is the democratic candidate for Texas Supreme court. Do I smell Ben Barnes anywhere here?
http://www.vanosforsupremecourt.com/
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mr_mechanical Lt.Jg.
Joined: 13 Aug 2004 Posts: 121 Location: Virginia
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:50 am Post subject: |
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Wait a second.
The DEMS release an ad within days of last Wednesday's 60 Minutes 2 show. The ad uses a clip from the interview.
WOW -- how could the DNC turn around such an ad so quickly? -- Only if they knew it was coming days (weeks or months) in advance -- I smell total complicity with Carvell and gang as the architects.
I can't wait till this is traced back from Burkett to Carvell and McAweful! What a blowback! |
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lrb111 Captain
Joined: 28 Jul 2004 Posts: 508
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:55 am Post subject: |
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Burkett raises cattle in Baird, just out side Abilene.
I knew it was this nut job.... _________________ said Democratic Chairman Terry McAuliffe. "It is inexcusable to mock service and sacrifice."
well, when even the DNC can see it,,,,, then kerry is toast. |
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the0point Lt.Jg.
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I don't want to speculate, but I could have sworn I saw on a blog somewhere...maybe CrushKerry.com, that some inside Democrat sources worried the memos were from moveon.org. And they were furious too, because that is VERY close to Kerry. Can we trace the link to them?
Updated: Here it is! http://www.crushkerry.com/article267.html
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Debs Lieutenant
Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 228 Location: Lubbock, Texas
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:58 am Post subject: |
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I keep wondering why CBS and Rather would cover for a loon like Burkett - wonder who the Kerry campaign operatives are here in Texas. Also Rather's daughter lives here in Texas somewhere and didn't she have connections to Barnes? Another Texan who has been ruthless in his pursuit of Bush's guard records over the years - Paul Begala. The Kerry link? Just a thought.
Debbie _________________ "No greater love..." |
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docford Lt.Jg.
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:59 am Post subject: |
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[quote="Aristotle The Hun
But do we know that the memos actually crossed state lines? I seem to remember hearing that a CBS producer flew to Texas to meet with the source of the documents.
Sam[/quote]
Once the fax transfers onto the phone line it enters interstate commerce. Even if the signal never reached a switching station in a different state, the statute applies. _________________ Doc Ford
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kennyd1165 Seaman Recruit
Joined: 10 Sep 2004 Posts: 16
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 4:00 am Post subject: Pictures of Burkett's Attorney with... |
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Pictures of Burkett's Attorney with...
JAMES CARVILLE
Bill Cliinton
Howard Dean
Tom Blackwell, National Democratic Party Platform Committee Member
Congressman Charlie Stenholm
http://www.vanosforsupremecourt.com/dvo_photo_album_campaign.htm
Not Kidding... |
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GenrXr Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy
Joined: 05 Aug 2004 Posts: 1720 Location: Houston
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 4:02 am Post subject: |
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docford wrote: | I don't want to get off topic too much, but blame the activist prosecutors and judges from the Clinton administration for expanding RICO. Congress never intended the statute to be used for anything but drug conspiracies.
The unfortunate thing at this point is that (1) Congress has no incentive to change the statute to limit coverage, and (2) since the incorrect interpretation is put there, prosecutors feel compelled to follow suit and expand the law as far as they can. |
I wish its intention was being fufilled, but unfortunately docford the RICO statute is being used by the feds anytime and against anyone they can to make their case these days. Power corrupts. _________________ "An activist is the person who cleans up the water, not the one claiming its dirty."
"All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to stand by and do nothing." Edmund Burke (1729-1797), Founder of Conservative Philosophy |
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