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spartan
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 Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 12:11 pm Post subject: ad 5 |
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I love the message - a message i firmly belive to be 100% accurate
However .......  (and this is why my team ldr needed valium)
Wont the constant editing raise questions with the Kerry supporters? Wont the say that with all the tape on Kerry anything could be strung together?
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jim_nyc
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| Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | spartan wrote.....Wont the constant editing raise questions with the Kerry supporters? Wont the say that with all the tape on Kerry anything could be strung together? |
Yeah...but that would be a good thing. You want people talking about this. Just like the Dan Rather thing people keep talking about the content regardless of the veracity of the documents. Big difference here though. There is no question that he gave both interviews and they conflict with each other. So they can complain and keep this in the news but ultimately Kerry is still revealed as less than honest. Plus they have been showing the original interview for some time now. Lots of people will be surprised to see the furiously angry Kerry trying to have it both ways. But the .."and I'm proud of it" statement at the end shows the real Kerry. The one that would cut and run in Iraq the first chance he gets.
On top of all that Kerry offends both sides of the issue. Woulnd't you think that a guy who becomes so disaffected with his military service that he throws his medals away would refrain from casting himself as a decorated war hero.
I mean there has been a lot of stink about these medals and here you find out the guy pretended to throw them over a fence in protest.
It's something very simple for people to understand. Yet Kerry manages to make it confusing as all hell. Threw 'em away, didn't really, medals, ribbons, he wins five and throughs away nine???? He's an anti-war activist, he's a heroic warrior.......what the....????
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spartan
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| Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 12:39 pm Post subject: ahhhh |
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ahhhh - sorta like jerking someones chain huh?
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deserturtle
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| Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 12:40 pm Post subject: Wow!! |
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We'll see that ad here in NV. The ads are well placed throughout the day. "I have been precisely accurate about what took place" Yeah, right.
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kerrlied
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| Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 12:42 pm Post subject: New AD? |
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Why is it not posted on the
SwiftBoat Web site First?
Are you going to post it today.
Manny can not view it from that site. |
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Bernard Cullen
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| Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 12:45 pm Post subject: Holding Action? |
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Ad is Okay if this is a holding action, but it raises the ante on Ad#6 which has to make a new and more forceful point. Most people now know Kerry threw away his(?) ribbons and/or medals and that he now wants to obscure the fact. Its like lying about sex - most people understand/tolerate that you lie about obviously embarrassing "youthful" moments. Paris meetings with VC, aid and comfort to the enemy and the cavalier 3000 not 3000000 actual lives cost due to Kerry's success at undermining the effort will be more powerful - like the lies about atrocities.
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poseidon
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| Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 12:46 pm Post subject: Re: New AD? |
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| kerrlied wrote: | Why is it not posted on the
SwiftBoat Web site First?
Are you going to post it today.
Manny can not view it from that site. |
Try this more direct Link
that doesn't use any Microsoft specific 'launcher' code |
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Doc Farmer
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| Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 12:52 pm Post subject: Re: New AD? |
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| poseidon wrote: | | kerrlied wrote: | Why is it not posted on the
SwiftBoat Web site First?
Are you going to post it today.
Manny can not view it from that site. |
Try this more direct Link
that doesn't use any Microsoft specific 'launcher' code |
I can't get it to work from either link. When will it be posted on the SwiftVets main page? Those always work for me.
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becca1223
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| Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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| The main message I get out of this new ad is that there's one thing John Kerry hasn't flip-flopped on - - He is still un-American! How dare he say that he's proud!!!!! John Kerry should apologize to all Americans for his involvement in the medal/ribbon throwing incident, after he apologizes to all Veterans for his testimony to the United States, Committee on Foreign Relations, on April 22, 1971. Unfortunately, that's not going to happen, because John Kerry is un-American!!!!! |
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FredRum
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| Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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I use Mozilla Firefox and I couldn't get the video to load up using the HumanEvents link. It worked fine in IE6, though.
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Wolfgang
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| Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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Have to agree with those who say the rapid-fire editing makes it seem suspect--especially his last "I'm proud of that." So far as the editing goes, he could be proud of anything.
If I were a critically thinking independent voter who hadn't read the book, I'd be very skeptical. |
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Doc Farmer
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| Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Wolfgang wrote: | Have to agree with those who say the rapid-fire editing makes it seem suspect--especially his last "I'm proud of that." So far as the editing goes, he could be proud of anything.
If I were a critically thinking independent voter who hadn't read the book, I'd be very skeptical. |
I think the firewall here blocks stuff from mms:// addresses, which is why it's not loading. However, when SBVFT puts in on their site, it's comming from an http:// address.
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jwb7605
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| Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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| FredRum wrote: | | I use Mozilla Firefox and I couldn't get the video to load up using the HumanEvents link. It worked fine in IE6, though. |
Same here. I even added "unblock popups" to Mozilla/Firebird. |
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dukeblue
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| Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 1:35 pm Post subject: radio spot? |
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I couldn't see the viseo either, but it didn't matter. The audio is excellent!
My advice... put this out as a radio spot as well. Hit another medium!
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brityank
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| Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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| tvaughan wrote: | | Anyone want to describe this ad? I have a mac and I can never wath any of the videos on Human Events. |
Try this: Open up your player and put this in the URL -- there is a space in the HE link that stops it on mine, but the direct link without spaces works.
Different Link
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