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[JC_Christian]

I remember a few years back that Michael Reagan was talking aboout the Klinton attrocities in Mena, Arkansas. As I recall, the former president had murdered over 40 people there, many with an improvised sword he had fashioned from a pointed stick.

It seems like I recall Kerry being involved in this. Does anyone know if that's true? It would seem to make sense inasmuch as both Kerry and Klinton were agaist the Vietnam war.

I also seem to remember that President Bush was awarded a medal for taking an enemy position during his service in the Texas Air National Guard. I can't seem to locate anything on that. Can anyone help me find it?
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Heterosexually yours,

Gen. JC Christian, patriot
http://patriotboy.blogspot.com

[Jonathan]

[boatsturley]

It is interesting that you Kerry-ites don't sign your names or give any indication who or what you are. I'm NOT pro-Bush as you clowns would have the world believe to cover for your beloved NOTwar hero Kerry. But it happens that as a combat veteran I can forgive those who did not serve much easier than I can forgive a self-serving medal monger, who betrayed his comrades in arms and his country by making false statements, consorting with the enemy and supporting those who were contributing to the deaths of thousands of U.S. troops in the combat zone. Kerry had only one thing in mind, his political career. Since he didn't get discharged from the Navy Reserve until long after his anti-American/anti-government activities it is clear that he violated the 14th Amendment: Section 3; and should not even be allowed to hoold the office of local dog catcher without a 2/3rds vote of both Houses of Congress to lift his civil and military disability.
Cowards hide behind the ignorance and/or the ambitions of others.
For those of you who refuse to give names and identify yourselves, there is no greater revelation about the lack of personal character than those who will hide from the light of truth and refuse to face those questioning their integrity. Come on out and let's have a public forum with Kerry and some of us Swifties who have no political agenda, save letting the world know the truth about Hanoi-John Kerry.

Bring it on! Any public forum without bias, or "live-lead" no delays broadcast. Let's see just who John Forbes Kerry really is?? Where's your guts John-boy. Hanoi-John sold his soul for a shot at the Presidency. Only one flaw. He is so arrogant that he thinks we forgot. Well John, we didn't and now it's time to face the Nation with the unmitigated truth.
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Michael Turley, BM2
PCF "Swift Boat" 15, Chu Lai, DaNang, '67-'68

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Michael Turley, BM2
PCF "Swift Boat" 15, Chu Lai, DaNang, '67-'68

[js]

That's a very interesting statement. Unfortunately, it is also highly partisan and biased. Equally unfortunately, it also cuts both ways. Let's look at Bush's record, for example. He went AWOL. However, it was never followed up and he in fact received an honorable discharge - which he in no way, shape, or form deserved according to "the book". The simple fact of the matter is that no one cared. National Guard service at the time was apparently a joke so no one cared when Bush went AWOL and he suffered no adverse consequences.
So, applying your line of argument, we need some new candidates as both of the major party ones are disqualified!
Do we all have to vote for Nader now?

[Navy_Navy_Navy]

You people make me laugh!

You keep repeating this "AWOL" and "deserter" charge (something which does not even apply to National Guardsmen in a drill status) as deflection from the very real affronts committed by your candidate.

It's not going to wash.

No matter how many times you say it, it's not going to come true. And no matter how much you try to evade the real issue of Kerry's lack of honor throughout his career, the truth is going to come out.
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~ Echo Juliet ~
Altering course to starboard - On Fire, Keep Clear
Navy woman, Navy wife, Navy mother

[js]

N3, might I respectfully ask you to actually read what I wrote? (As opposed to what you want to read into it.) I didn't actually attack anyone (let alone support Kerry). I merely pointed out that the logic used in boatsturley's argument cuts both ways.

Furthermore, as I stated above, Bush was only "AWOL" in a technical sense (he missed a compulsory medical exam which resulted in his flight status being revoked). The fact that it was never followed up because no one cared about it makes it irrelevant in the end. (Just as much as whether Kerry really deserved his first Purple Heart or what exactly he threw over the fence is irrelevant in the end.)

Quite frankly, I am of the opinion that neither Bush nor Kerry have a past they can only be proud of. I also believe, however, that their actions during and immediately after the Vietnam War are barely relevant to the campaign. Both candidates have exhibited leadership in the past (how successfully is, of course, purely a matter of individual judgement). The real question is not what they were doing 35 years ago, but where do they stand now and what would they do as President? Harping on Kerry's past sort of seems to be missing the point somehow. After all, Bush's own service record is clearly more than a little questionable. (Who's is more questionable is another of those matters of opinion.)
Dunno, maybe I've stumbled onto the wrong site for me.

[carpro]

You are correct. Harping on Kerrys past wouldn't be an issue if Kerry had not made it one. He's the one that started all the "harping". When you live in the glass house that Kerry does, it wasn't wise to throw the first stone.

[oldkayaker]

Geeesh....you sound like a bunch jealous whinners...