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WOW - this dan rather thing has a life of it's own
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swiftsocks
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Joined: 27 Aug 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a question.....

So far, all I have heard is that the documents are "fake". What is this supposed to mean ?

1. Are parts or all of the documents fake ?
2. Is the content of the documents made up ?
3. Is the signature fake ?
4. What is the difference between a fake and a forgery ?

My blood is still boiling from Dan Rather's statement : "The documents are accurate but not authentic". ROFLMAO !
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eXcel
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Joined: 23 Aug 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. 100% fradulent
2. yup
3. there are no originals, the signature was added to a photocopy by taking it off some other original document killian signed
4. pretty much same thing
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sround
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Joined: 27 Aug 2004
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Location: Stockbridge, GA

PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RE: Swiftsoxs

From the Freedictionary.com:

Noun 1. forgery - a copy that is represented as the original <counterfeit>, <imitation> <copy> - a secondary representation of an original; "she made a copy of the designer dress" <fake>, <sham>, <postiche> - something that is a counterfeit; not what it seems to be
2. forgery - criminal falsification by making or altering an instrument with intent to defraud <falsehood>, <falsification> - the act of rendering something false as by fraudulent changes (of documents or measures etc.) or counterfeiting <crime>, <law-breaking> - (criminal law) an act punishable by law; usually considered an evil act; "a long record of crimes"

Answers

1. Yes
2. Yes, and except for the M$ Word, they did a professional job too!
3. Yes
4. Fake is slang for forgery; forgery is a legal term

Review

As Elaine Bennis (Seinfield) once said, "Fake, fake, fake, fake, fake."
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You GottaBeKidding
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Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

eXcel,

The signatures on the forgeries did NOT come from a legitimate document. The signatures are forgeries. That's one of the (many) things that have been used to determine that the documents are forgeries.

Here's a link to a great article on The Shape of Days blog that shows the signatures from the forgeries with several signatures from known authentic documents. You don't have to be a handwriting expert to see the differences.

http://shapeofdays.typepad.com/the_shape_of_days/2004/09/the_signatures.html
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seize the Moment and use this momentum to support the troops by inflicting as much damage as we can towards the anti military crowd.
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