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coldwarvet
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmackto wrote:
I won't be satisfied until Unfit For Command and/or Stolen Honor is required reading in every high school in America. I want the next generation to know the truth of Vietnam and why it ended like it did and how it almost happened again with Iraq but for a brave group of veterans from the Vietnam war who stood up and said, "Never again." I want them to know the whole story so that it never happens again.

Is that too much to hope for?
No it is not. However to keep it from happening again we got alot of work ahead of us. We need to correct the record of our vietnam veterans. This is going to be a very long project getting all of the text books corrected and replaced. Getting right thinking teachers and professors in our nations classrooms, and then their is getting a fair representation in the media. I can go on & on. I think you get the picture their is alot of work in front of us.
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gleanerl
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my two cents.....
i think that yes, the books that depict the v.n. war in a realistic light should be in the school libraries as well as being assigned as required reading.
i also think that books, such as kerry's should be available, with a qualifier as to why the contents were not true.
a true "study" of it all.
i doubt that that will ever happen, yet with books such as "unfit for command" and others, the truth will and has most certainly started to come out to the masses.
this is a good thing.
and in light of the latest (key word=latest) lie from cbs and the debacle that is still following....
there's a lot of critical thinking going on. hehehe.
the msm may more than likely just fade away, but with talk radio, fox news and now the bloggers the msm will have to be noted in history.
hence, it will have to be noted as to the time and why of when it died.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A Swift Boat Support Office should be opened in
every city under non-profit status...using funds
granted to keep it open (If Kerry's Ketchup can
do it, so can we) I'll volunteer for Biloxi, MS. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once Kerry is gone, we will still have all the above-mentioned items, and also the VVAW...now IVAW (Iraq Veterans Against the War) to deal with - to expose - they are very well organized (I did some initial research on this posted in the VVAW section) -- they have some old leaders (VVAW "mentoring the returning Iraq soldiers..setting up new Winter Soldier Investigations....) and new leaders popping up -- and they will continue to try to get "their people" into office with or without Kerry.

They are anti-American military action and anti- any other kind of involvement anywhere in the world just let all nations go their own way- survival of the fittest and leave them alone with no intervention for any reason -- and just feed the world and be benevolent and have lots of discourse and all join hands and stay home ... against this, against that...agitate.. march... teach as many people as possible that they are victims for any number of reasons of the imperalistic desires of the U.S...... anti-capitalism, anti-, anti-xxxx, you fill in the blank! This is not helpful in the continuing war on terrorism, which I am afraid may last for many, many decades. Beyond this election issue, they will continue to try to turn our population and our military against the gov't in this battle (as they did with Nam) and that bodes ill. They want desperately to clip America's wings and ground her for good -- they see the intervention she does in situations around the world, including her own defense, as "imperalism."

So -- I'd like to add this problem to our list for post-"Stop Kerry" work -- things on the to-do list for this fantastic group! ....... Then, we need to start thinking about getting our own cable channel for real news and real information, reality/research-based-- which will be true and not speculated or opined about and which may not be fair or balanced!!
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been on the net for years and this site is the best thing I've ever seen for its interactive approach to problem solving and research in general.

I'm with the guy who says "Unfit" should be required reading in every school in America. We can push things like that.

I believe Kerry should be drummed out of the Senate (honestly, I do) and I believe that he should be required to reimburse taxpayers for every dime of pay, benefits, travel, and miscellaneous drivel that he's stolen from us.

I believe he should be forced back into the service as an eternal E1 until he finishes the years of his original contract, which obligation he very publicly failed to complete when he went AWOL from the Reserves.

I believe he should then be tried for treason and imprisoned for the rest of his miserable life--in a tight satin sailor suit in Leavenworth.

I believe this site has the resources and the presence and the commitment to become a very, very powerful, targeted political force.

The hitch may well be the 527 status, but that could be addressed.

Other than that, I have absolutely nothing against John Kerry.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cipher wrote:


Who knows, Kerry may want to try again in 2008.


Shocked Shocked Shocked Ssshhhhhhh He might hear you. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suggest that we all march on Boston and thrown flip flops into the harbor.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps we can come up with a matching fund deal. For every $ the Tim Michels campaign receives in our effort to un-seat Russ Feingold we will match with a $ from WI when it is time to free yourselves from the tyranny of the JFK #2 and the brother of JFK #1.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will write the Smithsonian Institute and request that this site
be funded for eternity. All posters and supporters will have their
names engraved on a monument in D.C.
John O'Neill's likeness will be added to Mount Rushmore.

I'll think of a few more goodies before Nov. Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read a post by one of the Admin over at the main section of this Forum stating that this Site will be closing down after the Presidential Election. If that is true then can someone else recommend another Forum for those of us who wish to keep in touch and share info can use?


I would appreciat it if you would post it here. Or if you don't want to do that then please PM me the Addy of an alternative Forum.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 1:58 pm    Post subject: Keep the swifties going !!!! Reply with quote

Fort Campbell wrote:
I read a post by one of the Admin over at the main section of this Forum stating that this Site will be closing down after the Presidential Election. If that is true then can someone else recommend another Forum for those of us who wish to keep in touch and share info can use?


I would appreciat it if you would post it here. Or if you don't want to do that then please PM me the Addy of an alternative Forum.


I have said it before and I say it again.

The swifties have started a political movement of more significance and importance for democracy than anything else in America since a LOOOONG tme.

This election is only the beginning of the Swifties. I suggest we organize a national convention after the elections for this movement to keep staying active in American politics.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What an absolute shame if this site shuts down after the election! Crying or Very sad

Food for Thought: What allowed Kerry to get this far for the position of President of the United States is more sinister than Kerry himself, which of course is next to impossible to achieve. There are other "Kerrys" out there! We have to also attack and destroy that which allowed Kerry to get to where he is!

The Anti-Americanism is very real and has infiltrated America. It does NOT go away, even if Kerry loses (which we know he will). I'm am working on a post that will explain in more detail.


This is a GREAT idea:

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Then, we need to start thinking about getting our own cable channel for real news and real information, reality/research-based-- which will be true and not speculated or opined about and which may not be fair or balanced!!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The number one item on the hit list of the anti-American, socialist, communist sympathizers is private gun ownership. The Second Amendment is the insurance policy for the US Constitution and the future of a free America. Once we loose our right to defend ourselves, the fight is finished. Please join the NRA and continue to fight for liberty as you support the Swifties. The United Nations wants your guns taken away!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope it does not shut down. There are many goals that could be made. Continuing to set the record straight about what really happened in Vietnam and honoring those that served and continue to serve our great nation. We could try to give the admins and moderators a break though. They seem to work endless hours. God bless em.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While I love this site and its members, you will lose all credibility once you start making attacks on other politicians. If you want to become member of a 527 that is in favor of getting every dove out of congress, I would suggest you start a group (if one doesn't exist, if it does, please post it). I think this site should only continue until its purpose is served, getting J K our of politics.

There could be legal repricutions if this 527 with its stated purpose starts attacking other legislatures.

Side note : Just because this is an Anti-Kerry website, doesn't mean its a pro-war in Iraq site, if the arguement that this site contains liberal (me) as well as conservative memebers, then you can't go around attacking other politicians because you may lose support with in the group.
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