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dmackto
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 Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 6:24 am Post subject: Unfreakingbelievable |
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http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/06/politics/campaign/06spin.html
| Quote: | Spinning Out Clear Winner Even Before Debate Begins
By JIM RUTENBERG
Published: October 6, 2004
CLEVELAND, Oct. 5 - Determined to win the post-debate spin war on Tuesday night, the Bush campaign called on its supporters to flood the news media with quick declarations that Vice President Dick Cheney had come out ahead.
Ken Mehlman, Mr. Bush's campaign manager, delivered the request in an e-mail message to supporters early Tuesday morning.
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"Immediately after the debate, visit online polls, chat rooms and discussion boards and make your voice heard," he said in the note, sent to the six million supporters on the campaign's e-mail list. "People's perceptions are shaped as much by their conversations around the water cooler as by the debates themselves."
The note - which is a mirror image of one sent out by the Democrats just before the first presidential debate last week - also exhorted supporters to follow up by writing letters to their local newspapers and by calling in to radio talk shows.
The instructions underscore the premium that both sides place on the post-debate scorekeeping by the news media, which the campaigns consider crucial to shaping perceptions and creating momentum in the final weeks of the race.
Such e-mail messages are just part of their arsenals for the post-debate spin wars: top aides and party surrogates are sent to cable news programs; local party leaders are sent to news studios to do the same in swing states and teams of researchers send dozens of messages to reporters covering the debates accusing the other candidate of flip-flops, misstatements or lies.
Vice-presidential debates are traditionally considered less influential than presidential ones. But both sides say this debate will carry more sway with voters, given the perception that the vice presidency has heightened importance in the post-Sept. 11 world. That was underscored by the lengths the White House went to shortly after the terrorist attacks to keep Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney separate at all times in case the vice president had to run the country.
Senator John Kerry's team is hoping his running mate, Senator John Edwards, can use the debate to build on the momentum that came from the Democratic presidential contender's well-reviewed performance at the first debate last Thursday.
Mr. Bush's team, on the other hand, still smarting from the impression that the president lost the debate and seemed peevish and annoyed, is hoping Mr. Cheney will reverse the tide, and set up the president to do better at the next debate, which will be in a town-hall setting on Friday night in St. Louis.
Though Mr. Kerry's aides argue that the overwhelming perception that Mr. Kerry was the victor was based on reality, not campaign talking points, they said they went to great efforts to ensure that such a view prevailed in news coverage for several days after the debate.
That strategy included an entreaty by Mr. Kerry's campaign manager to visitors to his Web log, saying, "Right now we need you" to "contact the media and speak your mind." The gist of that message ricocheted through several liberal Web sites and some reporters were deluged with e-mail messages about why Mr. Kerry had won.
Mr. Bush's aides acknowledged that Mr. Mehlman's note on Tuesday was almost identical to one written by the Democratic Party chairman, Terry McAuliffe, last Thursday. |
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eXcel
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| Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 6:34 am Post subject: |
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| Heh. NYTimes... does anybody even read that? |
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Scott
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| Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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| eXcel wrote: | | Heh. NYTimes... does anybody even read that? |
Yes, but they can no longer learn anything from it. 
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Ohio Voter
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| Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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The liberal base reads the NY Times. It keeps them inline and brain numbed.
| eXcel wrote: | | Heh. NYTimes... does anybody even read that? |
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Dimsdale
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| Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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Dems call it "grassroots" while saying the Republicans, doing precisely the same thing (without the lies of course!) get insinuations of being cheaters.
Democrat hypocrisy rearing it's ugly head (but it has good hair!).
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Anker-Klanker
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| Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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Everyone's so upset with CBS (as well they should be)... Frankly the NYT has become much worse. They've gone from being acknowledged as biased to outright partisan - and very few of the MSM call them on it.
Anyone who subscribes and reads the NYT has to be a flaming liberal and Kerryista. But the damage is done when papers all over the US pick up and carry pieces from the NYT. I don't know how to do it, but I think it's way past time to get them exposed for what they are. Maybe some letters to other newspapers editors along the line of:
"I have been informed that the New York Times is going to change it's name to The Democratic Wipe. I think that the name should be more dignified, e.g., The Liberal Fantasy. Please join me in petitioning the New York Times to take the high road in selecting their new name."  |
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