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[hmminCanada]

Aristotle, I am a little inexperienced in how to work things on a site like this. If you PM me how do I find what you have said? Appreciate your thoughtfulness. Or youcould email me at (removed email address). Thanks.



(I removed your email address - it could be picked up by spambots or crazies. If you want it back in there, just click on Edit at the top of your message and type over my edit and click "submit". EJ)

[Navy_Navy_Navy]

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Hope that helps. :)
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[Aristotle The Hun]

[Aristotle The Hun]

Here's a quote from Howell Raines, former editor of the New York Times. That should work well in the piece. ""Does anyone in America doubt that Kerry has a higher IQ than Bush? I'm sure their SATs and college transcripts would put Kerry far ahead."

Sam
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[Aristotle The Hun]

Expected release date of Bush vs Kerry IQ story is Oct. 18. Good timing.

Sam
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[Aristotle The Hun]

LOS ANGELES, May 1 (Reuters) - British Prime Minister Tony Blair, whose closeness to U.S. President George W. Bush earned him praise from Washington and derision at home, says he thinks the American leader's lightweight image is "complete bull."

In an interview with Vanity Fair magazine, Blair said the image was not only "complete bull" but "total nonsense."

He added in the interview with contributing editor David Margolick, "I was about to say, 'He's not someone who will philosophize,' but actually that's not true, because he does. But 'directness' is the best way I can describe it. He has a very, very direct way of stating exactly what he feels about a situation."

Blair added about Bush, "He is highly intelligent, and it's not clotted by so many nuances that the meaning is obscured. The good thing about (Bush) is that once he does really think that an issue has to be tackled he has big reserves of courage for doing it, and he won't really be diverted."

"I trust him, and that is extremely important at our level of politics," Blair, a chief Bush ally in the Iraq war, said.

The British prime minister defended being both friends with Bush and his predecessor, Bill Clinton, saying, "They're very different people, but so what? We all have different friends."

Regarding his and Bush's strong religious beliefs, Blair said, "I can't say it's something we've discussed, but it's something we share." Although Blair denied that he and Bush prayed together, Margolick said that someone close to Blair told him that they probably have.

Sam
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[Aristotle The Hun]

More grist for the mill

Bush higher SAT score than John Kerry (vanity)
Posted on 10/09/2004 9:56:01 PM PDT by SideoutFred
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/List%20of%20people%20by%20SAT%20score
Bush 1206 Kerry 1190
Here is what we also know from New Yorker Magazine and UPI in articles from January of 2004.
-- Bush's SAT scores are higher than Bill Bradley's, Paul Wellstone's, and John Kerry's.
-- Bush scored a 1206 on his SAT, 566 of 800 on verbal and 640 of 800 on math. [Since the SAT's scale has since been "recentered," Bush's score is more like a 1300 today.]
-- Bush's verbal score would place him between the 84th and 92nd percentile of college-bound students, or the 93rd to 97th percentile of ALL high-school seniors taking the exams, the percentile usually used.
-- His math score would also place him between the 84th and 92nd percentile of college-bound students, or the 94th to 98th percentile of ALL high-school seniors taking the exams, the percentile usually used.
-- Using one method to extract IQ's from these SAT scores, Bush's IQ would be somewhere between 124 and 137. Hardly a dunce, that's at least in the top six percent of Americans.
-- We all hear of Bush's supposed college mediocrity, but in reality his "worst" courses were two C-minus scores. Accounting for grade inflation, Bush's worst grades are around today's B-minuses.
Recentered SAT: 1300 IQ: 124-137 Stupid: Definately not
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[Navy_Navy_Navy]

Well, that does appear to smack Mr. Raines rather smartly about the head and shoulders, doesn't it?

Just let the other side keep "misunderestimating" him.

There's a revolution going on, but they haven't caught on, yet.
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[Mark]

Kerry's GCT of 58 after graduating from Yale certainly is unimpressive.
When I joined the Navy almost 50 years ago I did so poorly on the Phoenix Recruiting Centere test (ASVAB?) that I was told I could go to Navy RTC San Diego but if I didn't do better on the GCT I might be sent next door to MCRD .
Then I got 67 GCT (no MENSA for me ) and 68 ARI and went off to ET school.
That 135 total is one point less than I scored on one of those on-line IQ tests so maybe there is some correlation.
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[Paul5388]

Mark,

My GCT + ARI was 130 which is 5 less than what I scored on one of the online test, so it does seem like there is some correlation between the two.

Of course, there was 43 years between the GCT and the online test. I had been 17 years old less than a month when I took the Navy battery of tests.
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[CK_Phantom]

Is there a methodology for determining relative IQ from modern ASVAB line scores from test taken while hungover?
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[Aristotle The Hun]

[Aristotle The Hun]

[Aristotle The Hun]

http://www.iSteve.com/Oct04.htm#delajara

IQ Odds and Ends: Rodrigo de la Jara runs a fun "IQ Comparison Site" with lots of interesting data.

Of particular interest is his discovery of a Pre-1974 SAT to IQ Conversion Table. The Educational Testing Service has long denied, with a straight face, knowing of any study correlating SAT scores and IQ scores, so de la Jara is only partially kidding when he writes:

The table is from the paper 'Conversion Tables for Otis Gamma and Scholastic Aptitude Test,' by Warren W. Willingham and James A. Strickland in the Personnel and Guidance Journal, 41(4), 1962, 356-358. It took some effort and luck to dig up this obscure paper. The experience was a bit like finding a Rosetta stone.

'The data are based upon a sample of 403 students who visited the Office of Guidance and Testing at Georgia Institute of Technology during the years of 1957-1960.'...

'The correlation between the two scores was 0.58. The standard error of estimate for the SAT total score was 102; the standard error of estimate for the Otis was 5.8. This correlation of 0.58 gives a spuriously low impression of the correlation between the SAT and the Otis due to restriction in the range of ability in this sample.'

Unfortunately, this Otis-Gamma IQ test has a standard deviation of 15.6 rather than the standard 15, so George W. Bush's 1206 SAT score, for example, would equate to a conventional IQ of about 128 rather than the Otis-Gamma 129, as the table says.
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[Richard Christiansen]

Anytime somebody accuses Bush of being stupid, well, I think you have to be stupid to think he's stupid! For as stupid as they thought he was, with a little practice, he pretty much outclassed the slick talking Kerry at his own practiced craft, debating. Kerry is of course one of the smartest, best debators ever known in Congress that has spent his entire life practicing debating, mostly with himself, while Bush was actually out doing something, like working. What a novel thing to actually do, and what an insult this is to the intellectual world. How can anybody but a public servant in government know anything? He worked in private enterprise of all things, and he has all these evil oil buddies back in Texas. Keep up the good work with the IQ thing. Nice to have mathematical proof of what all the old country bumpkins like us already know.
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