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BrianC
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| Interesting that those that feel a need to apologize for Jose Padilla never bother to use his new, legally taken name, Abdullah Al-Muhajir. |
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kyleparr
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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He can call himself whatever he wants, as long as he can do it in a court of law where he is charged. His name is completely irrelevant to the fact that he has basic rights under the constitution.
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Scott
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| Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 5:25 am Post subject: |
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| kyleparr wrote: | | You could at least uphold your constitution and charge him! what right do you or anyone else have to hold an American citizen and deny him his rights? what kind of soldier are you? what kind of representative of MY country are you? |
"...your constitution..."
"...MY country..."
Priceless.
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Scott
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| Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 5:29 am Post subject: Re: huh? |
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| waltjones wrote: | | ...it's guys like us who protect sheep like you. Thatisall ..... |
This seemed appropriate at this point:
It is the VETERAN, not the preacher,
who has given us freedom of religion.
It is the VETERAN, not the reporter,
who has given us freedom of the press.
It is the VETERAN, not the poet,
who has given us freedom of speech.
It is the VETERAN, not the campus organizer,
who has given us freedom to assemble.
It is the VETERAN, not the lawyer,
who has given us the right to a fair trial.
It is the VETERAN, not the politician,
Who has given us the right to vote.
It is the VETERAN, who salutes the Flag.
Let's not forget who we really own our freedoms to!
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DougReese
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| Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 10:48 am Post subject: Re: John Kerry's family is funded by Communist Vietnam |
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OK, enough about Jose. . . . .
| waltjones wrote: | ... thru the Forbes side; it's why Kerry dropped the POW/MIA issue and promoted trade with them. Imagine, sole access to all the coming real estate deals .....
Semper Fi! |
Right -- the multi-billion dollar real estate deal.
I think that story was started by ted sampley. I'd be curious to know if it's actually true -- both as to it's value, and to it's existence.
The only evidence I've ever seen is it being repeated a few thousand times on the net. Nothing new ever added except the value, which grows and grows.
I'd like to see Snopes jump on this one.
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DougReese
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| Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 10:50 am Post subject: |
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| prdCOmom wrote: | | Walt have you seen the pictures of Kerry that are in the Hanoi museum. Very sad. |
No, he hasn't. Nor has anyone else.
Doug
PS. It's in Saigon. (Sorry, I couldn't help myself) |
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rbshirley
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| Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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| DougReese wrote: | | prdCOmom wrote: | | Walt have you seen the pictures of Kerry that are in the Hanoi museum. Very sad. |
No, he hasn't. Nor has anyone else.
Doug
PS. It's in Saigon. (Sorry, I couldn't help myself) |
The presence in this museum of the tribute to Kerry's major contribution to
the political defeat of the US by the North Vietnamese Communists has
been well documented by the photographer and other western visitors.
And PS: It's in Ho Chi Minh City. A name change facilitated by Kerry's activities
"It is a fact that in the entire Vietnam War we did not lose one major battle.
We lost the war at home. And at home, John Kerry was the Field General."
{Quote by} Robert Elder, Swift Boat sailor
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DougReese
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| Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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| rbshirley wrote: | | DougReese wrote: | | prdCOmom wrote: | | Walt have you seen the pictures of Kerry that are in the Hanoi museum. Very sad. |
No, he hasn't. Nor has anyone else.
Doug
PS. It's in Saigon. (Sorry, I couldn't help myself) |
And PS: It's in Ho Chi Minh City. A name change facilitated by Kerry's activities
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Well, if you insist, but most who live there call it Saigon. The biggest tourist company is Saigontourist, and it's a government company. The Saigon Zoo hasn't changed it's name, and the airport still goes by SGN.
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rbshirley
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| Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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| DougReese wrote: |
Well, if you insist, but most who live there call it Saigon. |
Do you mean that the communists have not been able to "bury" all of the
vestiges of western culture as promised by Nikita Serge Khrushchev ?
Darn!! Thank you President Reagan! And thank you Vietnam Veterans!
And since you feel that the old ways are best, then I do insist that Kerry's
tribute be thought of as being in the "War Crimes Museum" rather than in
the "new speak" of "War Remnants Museum"
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PS: And the area around Dung Quat Bay is still referred to as "Chu Lai"
which was given this Mandarin Chinese name to stand for USMC General
Victor Krulak, who chose the location. The current Vietnamese government
hopes to announce the opening of "Chu Lai International Airport" soon.
An inadvertant, but perhaps fitting, tribute to a fine =>US<= General.
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DougReese
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| Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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| rbshirley wrote: | | DougReese wrote: |
Well, if you insist, but most who live there call it Saigon. |
Do you mean that the communists have not been able to "bury" all of the
vestiges of western culture as promised by Nikita Serge Khrushchev ?
Darn!! Thank you President Reagan! And thank you Vietnam Veterans!
And since you feel that the old ways are best, then I do insist that Kerry's
tribute be thought of as being in the "War Crimes Museum" rather than in
the "new speak" of "Vietnamese Communist War Remnants Museum"
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Actually, the original name wasn't the War Crimes Museum, and the new name isn't the Vietnamese Communist War Remnants Museum.
It was/is The American War Crimes Museum and The War Remnants Museum. (First it was the American War Crimes Museum, then the War Crimes Museum and now the War Remnants Museum.)
And as for burying the vestiges of western culture, well, you should see them now -- nothing BUT western culture! I guess ole' Nikki would be turning over in his grave.
I suppose Ho would be too, if he was, well, in it.
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nakona
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| Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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| kyleparr wrote: | | He can call himself whatever he wants, as long as he can do it in a court of law where he is charged. His name is completely irrelevant to the fact that he has basic rights under the constitution. |
I shouldn't have to explain this to you, but his choice of name goes to State of Mind.
Not that it matters...
If he were brought back, given a fair trial, convicted of treason and executed, you'd complain about that too.
Since there's nothing the administration can do to make you and your ilk happy, there doesn't seem to be any reason to pay attention to your complaints.
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kyleparr
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| Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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Well, actually, he was arrested in O'Hare. Has not been charged. He has been imprisoned for two years. He has had his rights as an American citizen violated. This is not the case of a guy caught on the battlefield.
I am just amazed at how quickly you are willing to throw away someone else's rights. Why are you so scared about him being charged and tried? Why are Bush and Ashcroft scared?
You know he is going to walk, right? His rights have been abused so badly he will be gangbanging in no time, thanks to your President and Justice Department.
He is Muslim, therefore guilty. Can you say racism? Bigotry? |
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nakona
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| Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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| kyleparr wrote: |
I am just amazed at how quickly you are willing to throw away someone else's rights.
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What makes you so certain that this is something I do lightly?
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kyleparr
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| Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I shouldn't have to explain this to you, but his choice of name goes to State of Mind. |
you have condemned him becuase of his name. I would say that is pretty light. |
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