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ocsparky101 PO1
Joined: 03 Sep 2004 Posts: 479 Location: Allen Park. Michigan
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 12:10 am Post subject: |
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Could it be that the Navy finishes their investigation on the Kerry medals and finds that he did not deserve them. Maybe they will also dust off their old investigation on the Silver Star Medal and determine that it was a War Crime and murder and bring charges against John Kerry (no statute of Limitations on Murder). Then again they may bring COngressional Hearings on John Kerry for giving aid and comfort to the enemy and remove him from the Senate. No longer able to take the office of President even if he wins by a landslide because the Constitution says so and after all that is the law of the land. |
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zinfella Rear Admiral
Joined: 19 Aug 2004 Posts: 708 Location: Mesa, Az
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 12:12 am Post subject: |
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ocsparky101 wrote: | Could it be that the Navy finishes their investigation on the Kerry medals and finds that he did not deserve them. |
What investigation? They aren't doing any. _________________ No whiners! |
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wednesdaychild PO3
Joined: 06 Aug 2004 Posts: 276
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 12:13 am Post subject: |
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I doubt it will have anyting to do with the SBV or kerry's medals. I'm thinking someing likeWMD's or somone maybe from the kerry camp coming forwad with some damning info. I'm thinking a scandal of sorts, somethng that will hurt kery bad. Maybe some really good news formIraq, or old Osma himself.
we can hope _________________ "...for the good of believing in life after birth..."
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Schadow Vice Admiral
Joined: 30 Sep 2004 Posts: 936 Location: Huntsville, Alabama
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 12:23 am Post subject: Kerry's medals |
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The Navy Department recently did an "investigation" of Kerry's medals and reported out that "all the paperwork was in order". Whoop-de-do. The MSM trumpeted that as "end of story".
No apparent digging into to origins of after-action reports.
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zinfella Rear Admiral
Joined: 19 Aug 2004 Posts: 708 Location: Mesa, Az
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 12:34 am Post subject: |
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The Navy isn't going to investigate John F-ing Kerry unless they are ordered to. Let's also remember that he has his supporters, and they could also be blocking any investigation into his shenanigans. If Rummy oders them to investigate, it will be seen as a partisan attack. That is very risky, and liable to be more trouble than it's worth, between now and election day.
Time is short, so any action, info, or what have you, will have to have instant results, in order to effect the outcome. _________________ No whiners! |
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sdonions PO3
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 1:01 am Post subject: |
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I also believe that the October Suprise is going to be disclosure of a stockpile of WMD. That mass of yellow cake uranium that was reported several months ago was just a start. Another thing is Zarqawi was pushing for the release of "DRs. Germ and Anthrax". I think they have finally been broken and pointed where to Bio/Chem WMDs have been stored. |
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wovenhearts Seaman Recruit
Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Posts: 17 Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 1:19 am Post subject: is this the October surprise? |
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I read this on www.crushkerry.com and wondered if this attack on Kerry's liberal record is part of the "October surprise".
http://www.crushkerry.com/article293.html
October is Shock and Awe Month on Kerry's Liberal Record
Just under a week ago we urged the Bush-Cheney folks to begin the campaign for president anew (http://www.crushkerry.com/article-289--0-0.html). At issue was not President Bush’s debate performance (which was not nearly as bad as the myth that has evolved around it) per se, but rather the embarrassing limits of the “flip-flop” fetish that has become the Republican mantra this year.
We’d like to think someone at Bush-Cheney reads crushkerry.com and took our advice. Yesterday, President Bush opened up a Texas-sized can of Whoop Tooshie (this is a family website) (http://apnews.myway.com/article/20041006/D85I7JJ00.html) on America’s Most Liberal Senator in what marks a tectonic shift in message strategy for the re-election effort.
We recently expressed our frustration over the “flip-flop” narrative with a veteran GOP campaign operative in daily contact with, and in some cases working side by side with, high-level "Bush/Cheney 04" campaign officials, and asked them why, given all the evidence that this message had long since played itself out, did the campaign continue to hammer away on it, ala Bush v. Clinton, ‘92? When were Republicans going to pummel this clown with his own record ala Reagan v. Mondale, ’84 and Bush v. Dukakis, ’88?
“October,” the operative, who asked to remain nameless, told us. “We couldn’t stay quiet all year. And if we’d been hitting him [Kerry] on his liberal record all year, it would have grown stale and lost its punch, like the flip-flop stuff has. The plan was always to barrage him with his record and brand him a Massachusetts and Washington liberal during the crucial month of October.”
So the “flip-flop” stuff was just entertaining background noise?
“That’s exactly right,” we were told. “Look, we know we can beat John Kerry on his liberal voting record. But that decision is made in finality by most voters during the closing days of an election. We needed to give people something to talk about for the past year while Kerry has tried to slash the President down with his vicious, negative attacks.”
But now the campaign is on? We’re going to see and hear a more offensive posture from the President and his campaign?
“Absolutely. I think you could call it ‘Shock and Awe.’ You’ll know it when you see it,” our source said.
We can’t wait. And we urge the President to give us more of what he gave us yesterday.
Posted on Thursday, October 07 @ 07:06:58 EDT by admin |
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Hammer2 PO2
Joined: 30 Aug 2004 Posts: 387 Location: Texas
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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Well everyone, is the Kerry discharge story today the "October Surprise", or is the best still yet to come? _________________ "The price of freedom is eternal vigilence" - Thomas Jefferson
"An armed society is a polite society" - Thomas Jefferson
"The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it won't be needed until someone tries to take it away." -- Thomas Jefferson |
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zinfella Rear Admiral
Joined: 19 Aug 2004 Posts: 708 Location: Mesa, Az
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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See Dr. Corsi's press conference where he exposes John F-ing Kerry's close association with Iran, and the mullahs that send terrorists to kill our troops. _________________ No whiners! |
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twicearound PO2
Joined: 02 Sep 2004 Posts: 362 Location: San Antonio
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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'THIS IS ON THURSDAY RIGHT? any idea of time _________________ twicearound |
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zinfella Rear Admiral
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I thought it was supposed to be today at 0915. At any rate the story is out, you can see it here. <http://www.liddyshow.us/index2.php> _________________ No whiners! |
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GiveMeFreedom PO3
Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 279 Location: Wisconsin
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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zinfella wrote: | See Dr. Corsi's press conference where he exposes John F-ing Kerry's close association with Iran, and the mullahs that send terrorists to kill our troops. |
I've heard of the Iranian connection, but I haven't heard of this press conference...(dang, note to self, must drink more coffee & stay up all night to keep up with these guys!).
Could you tell me which channel & what time? _________________ -------------------
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zinfella Rear Admiral
Joined: 19 Aug 2004 Posts: 708 Location: Mesa, Az
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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I heard about it by accident, last night at midnight. I heard Corsi being interviewed by Worldnet Daily, and they said the press conference was set for 0915 today. The whole thing was very strange because I tuned in to hear G Gordon Liddy at his midnight start time here in Phoenix. Well, the station that carries his show is staffed by lees than professional people, and often another show will be broadcast in error, in the G man's time slot. So, here I am missing my usual G man show, but I luck out with an unexpected interview with Corsi. As luck would have it, after the first commercial break, the G man's show came on, and I missed the rest of the Corsi interview. This all happens nightly, at midnight, when I turn on my CC radio, and use the plug in pillow speaker, so as not to disturb my wife, who is not into listening to the radio at bed time. _________________ No whiners! |
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coolhand PO3
Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 255 Location: MA/RI
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 5:56 pm Post subject: Re: is this the October surprise? |
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wovenhearts wrote: | I read this on www.crushkerry.com and wondered if this attack on Kerry's liberal record is part of the "October surprise".
http://www.crushkerry.com/article293.html
October is Shock and Awe Month on Kerry's Liberal Record
We’d like to think someone at Bush-Cheney reads crushkerry.com and took our advice. Yesterday, President Bush opened up a Texas-sized can of Whoop Tooshie (this is a family website) (http://apnews.myway.com/article/20041006/D85I7JJ00.html) on America’s Most Liberal Senator in what marks a tectonic shift in message strategy for the re-election effort.
We recently expressed our frustration over the “flip-flop” narrative with a veteran GOP campaign operative in daily contact with, and in some cases working side by side with, high-level "Bush/Cheney 04" campaign officials, and asked them why, given all the evidence that this message had long since played itself out, did the campaign continue to hammer away on it, ala Bush v. Clinton, ‘92? When were Republicans going to pummel this clown with his own record ala Reagan v. Mondale, ’84 and Bush v. Dukakis, ’88?
“October,” the operative, who asked to remain nameless, told us. “We couldn’t stay quiet all year. And if we’d been hitting him [Kerry] on his liberal record all year, it would have grown stale and lost its punch, like the flip-flop stuff has. The plan was always to barrage him with his record and brand him a Massachusetts and Washington liberal during the crucial month of October.”
So the “flip-flop” stuff was just entertaining background noise?
“That’s exactly right,” we were told. “Look, we know we can beat John Kerry on his liberal voting record. But that decision is made in finality by most voters during the closing days of an election. We needed to give people something to talk about for the past year while Kerry has tried to slash the President down with his vicious, negative attacks.”
But now the campaign is on? We’re going to see and hear a more offensive posture from the President and his campaign?
“Absolutely. I think you could call it ‘Shock and Awe.’ You’ll know it when you see it,” our source said.
We can’t wait. And we urge the President to give us more of what he gave us yesterday.
Posted on Thursday, October 07 @ 07:06:58 EDT by admin |
I think this is it. See this link for some good ammo for attacking Kerry's liberal record. I agree with CrushKerry that some of the old attacks are becoming stale. There are some devastating quotes here.
http://www.georgewbush.com/kerrysliberalrecord/
I just had an idea. What if the Swiftees took out a full page ad in swing state newspapers listing all the quotes here about him being a liberal. I know people on this site are very passionate about his service record, but at this stage of the game, with two weeks to go, attacking him as a thirty year liberal could be more effective. Just sit back and look at all those quotes. Its pretty disconcerting to someone that doesnt know Kerry well or is a moderate. Imagin being a moderate in Wisconsin, opening the Sunday paper and seeing that list. That'll make you think twice.
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zinfella Rear Admiral
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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I think that the RNC's October surprise is not the same as the Swiftee's surprise. _________________ No whiners! |
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