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Hammer2 · PO2 Joined: 30 Aug 2004 Posts: 387 Location: Texas

Head spinning?
It's more like being in a pitched battle with shells and gunfire all around you. Some from the enemy, and some from our side.
Like any battle, it is most intense just before the enemy is broken and the victory won!
Just hunker down and keep pouring it on -victory will be ours!
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JCJR · Lt.Jg. Joined: 24 Aug 2004 Posts: 114

On one hand, if there are tapes, BOR might as well retire now and save himself a lot of trouble.

On the other hand, innocent until proven guilty.

On the gripping hand, the quotations in the indictment sure do sound "true to BOR's public persona".

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Folks hate phoneys regardless of whether they are politically useful phoneys.

Anyone recall one of Andy Griffith's greatest roles, that old black'n'white movie 'A Face in the Crowd'?

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Man, I'd hate for this lawsuit to take up as many hours of gossip TV as OJ, Clinton, or Scott Peterson.

This will make Fox a lot more bucks than the $60,000,000. Fantastic muck-raker ratings.

Will give Geraldo, Greta, and their usual motley crew of ambulance-chasing know-it-alls, juicy gossip for the next couple of years.

Jim T. · Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 1:59 pm Post subject:

Kobe Bryant?

I must admit I have not followed the Bryant case, so you must forgive me if I see no application to the BOR scandal. That is, not aware that there has been a settlement in the civil suit. Rape case is far removed from sexual harassment.

After reading both complaints I must conclude that while BOR might not technically be guilty of "sexual harassment", he is guilty of something I would not want any of my 3 daughters to face from their respective bosses. While I am not aware of all of the facts and circumstances involved in this situation, I would also hope that any of my daughters would handle such behavior in a different manner than Ms. Mackris.

That being said, BOR obviously has a libido that matches his ego and a bank account to rival both. Those 3 facts compel one to engage ones brain when the first 2 run amuck endangering the 3rd!
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gulf1609 · Seaman Apprentice Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 78

I bet there are tapes. The documents go into too much detail not to have tapes to back her story up. That said, O'Reilly may be in real trouble with his family and with his viewers. As for the lawsuit, I would be shocked if this girl did not set up O'Reilly with the help of other Fox news haters. I don't believe O'Reilly sexually harrassed the woman but if tapes do prove the conversations are true, O'Reilly has some real moral issues he needs to address. It would be hard for this girl to have set up O'Reilly if he stood up for his wedding vows and showed any kind of respect for his wife and children. Again, I bet the harrassment is baloney but the damage to O'Reilly will be great.

kmudd · Master Chief Petty Officer Joined: 16 Aug 2004 Posts: 825

BOR is an ego manic who acts like he is all powerful. He hawks his O'Reilly gear like it is his only way of making money. He always reads at least one letter from a viewer who praises him like a god and then he sends them a signed (now paperback too cheap for a hardback?) book. He claims Christians conservatives are nuts. This woman's story sounds fishy.Why keep talking to him on the phone? just hang up if he says something offensive.Why keep going to dinners with him? And why go back to work with him ? But still even O'Reilly's lawyer says there maybe an audio tape.So something must have happened between them. Her boss at Cnn lost his job for sexual harrising her so maybe she set O"reilly up for the money or to get back at him? I don't feel sorry for O"reilly because I doubt if he cared if Anita Hill was lying about Clarence Thomas. At that time O"Reilly was on a show that was just a little better than the National Enquirer. If O'Reilly wants to live by the rules of the left ,then if he dies by his own rules then that is what he gets.

JCJR · Lt.Jg. Joined: 24 Aug 2004 Posts: 114

Bystander · PO3 Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Posts: 271 Location: MI

Right up front I state that I think BOR has turned into a slime ball during the past several months. However, I feel Mackris is an experienced twit--experienced at manipulation--and don't feel her story will hold up in court. I don't think BOR would be that stupid to keep after her if she said no to him all the times she claims. His experience at digging up dirt when he worked on the other show, I believe would have taught him to be on the lookout for characters like her.

Most of my business life I've been in the co-ed world. In a group, I do my fair share of flirting, joke telling, etc., but when in a one-on-one situation, I have the upper hand by declaring I have no interest in extra curricular activities. In fact, in one situation, a well placed knee showed I was serious. I don't know how he explained that to our supervisor or his wife. The word got around that you don't try to take avantage of me.

If it were my superior who tried to put the moves on me, he'd get the same treatment. My philosophy? 'I was looking for a job when I came here and I can find one again.' I had faith in my abilities. Evidently, professionally, Mackris had something on the ball if she was able to go to CNN at more money, but decided to come back to FOX. Why? This seems like a complete setup to me! I have no sympathy for what it may do to BOR's reputation, but I hope FOX comes out of it with clean hands (and pockets in tact).
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kmudd · Master Chief Petty Officer Joined: 16 Aug 2004 Posts: 825

JCJR · Lt.Jg. Joined: 24 Aug 2004 Posts: 114

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PC · Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 5:30 pm Post subject: New York Guys

Looks like two New York guys are going to throw down on this one.

Ms Mackris picked an attorney from Brooklyn.

Brooklyn kids always thought Long Island guys (OReilly) were wusses.

Here's info on BOR's latest new friend:

http://newyorkmetro.com/nymetro/news/crimelaw/features/2323/index.html

Bystander · PO3 Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Posts: 271 Location: MI

Looks like Morelli is a graduate of the John Edwards University School of Law.
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theresa · Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 6:43 pm Post subject:

Regarding the BOR situation, if you read the complaint by the woman, it contains wording that very strangely sounds like the person who wrote it was answering some of BOR's remarks from his first book. Also, the fact that the lengthy complaint incorporated the name of Al Franken led me to believe it was a smear job.

Anyway, I hope this isn't true. I can't believe that BOR could be so stupid as to allow this to happen to himself.

T.
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diane in IL · Lt.Jg. Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 102

I have not had time to read everyone's comments, so forgive me if this echo's anyone elses sentiments, but as a woman, I am offended by this womans claims. I am NOT an O'Reilly fan. In fact, I have always thought he is a phony, although I do find him entertaining.

I heard this woman interviewed briefly on I think GMA this morning, and she made me want to puke. She invoked the old "Oh, I was so frightened... oh I felt so violated... oh poor me.." In my opinion, she hurts all women as a result of this behavior. She insinuates that women are just meek helpless beings at the mercy of powerful men. If what she said is true, why didn't she file a complaint? Why did she continue to work for him? Even if everything she said Bill O'R said is true, the same questions apply.

Was she really violated to the tune of $60 million dollars? Someone could dirty talk with me all day long for that kind of money. This demand in and of itself completely obliterates her credibility. If she was doing it just to extricate herself from a difficult situation, why would a demand for money even be considered?

It stinks stinks stinks like a festering rotting fish, and no matter what you think of BOR, she gives all women a bad name. Any woman that is truly involved in a hostile work environment just got set back 50 years of progress.

diane in IL

Fphamm · Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 8:18 pm Post subject:

Well, guess that the lefties will be all over this, but if it was a leftie that did the same nothing would be said....nice MSM BIAS....