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[Navymomx2]

[War Dog]

Navymomx2, I'll try my best to answer your questions the best that I can from my 16 years of Navy experience.

[Navymomx2]

War Dog,

Thank You for your reply, you confirmed exactly what I was thinking. It basically boils down to an inflated ego.

I am proud to say I was a Lincoln mom for about 2 1/2 years and I adopted many sailor's from that ship. My son would bring home buddies on the weekends, it was nothing uncommon to have 4-6 sailor's at any given time. I learned a lot about Carriers, especially the Lincoln during that time. I had the priviledge of touring her at my son's first homecoming.

Again, thank you for your assessment.

[BrianC]

"My son would bring home buddies on the weekends, it was nothing uncommon to have 4-6 sailor's at any given time. "

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God Bless you, Navymom.

Having spent 10 years in the Navy, and often far from home, I hope you fully understand that your generosity in welcoming your son's Navy buddies makes an impact much deeper than you might possibly know.

I know.

Years ago, I was welcomed into a friend's home on such occasions. I've never forgotten their generosity and friendship.

God Bless you.

[War Dog]

I too would always invite guys/gals on my ship to cookouts and parties at my house. My wife was Ombudsman on my last ship, and she loved it. And Thanksgiving, Christmas and 4th of July was always big dinners / cookouts at my house. Makes a big difference in the life of the single sailors!

Thanks for all that you do!

Woof!
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When cops need help, they call the K-9 unit."

[JN173]

[Marine4life]

Thanks Navy Mom and War Dog, elliquently explained. Even as a Marine I spent time on U.S. Navey ships. I was an "Airwinger" so as you can see my ships were carriers, or LHA's, LPH's. I have heard Mission Accomplished so many times it is as standard as good morning. I have heard Niel Diamonds "Coming to America" over the 1MC upon the return as well. As for playing dress up, well I believe the NATOPS manual and the NAVAIR 4790b, dictate what flight gear is required for flight in combat aircraft. One being the Nomex flight suit, flight survival vest, steeltoe flight boots, flight helmet. In addition your name and designation must be displayed on a patch placed on the left breast area of your suit and or jacket. Anyone that has any knowledge of a carrier knows that the most dangerous act any pilot can do is a trap, catching that cable with the arresting gear is tricky and dangerous. That is why the aircraft is at full power when the gear hits the deck, in case of a miss or wave off, or broken cable. Would Kerry expect him to do that in a suit and tie? Would he deprive him the right of using the O2 mask that is reguired for sustaining life above 12,500 ft. Give me a break, I don't see this dribble when members of the media or democratic party get a kiddy ride in the Blue Angels, Thunderbirds fighter aircraft and doning the appropriate required flight gear. Now with that said I have one parting comment for the Honorable Ronald Reagan, " Mission Accomplished Sir". Semper Fi.
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Helicopter Marine Attack Squadron 169 which is now HMLA-169. They added Huey's to compliment the Cobra effectiveness. When I served we just had Snakes.

[Marine4life]

It seems that when a good thread about Kerry stepping into a big pile of doo doo with his mouth appears the trolls stay away and try to make it disappear. Or put the attack on us or Bush. This one they have left alone, why. Is it because so many democrats have climbed into the front seat of a fighter and DRESSED UP just like Bush did? I believe that's it! Every time the Blue Angels come to town a member of the local media gets a ride, and the local elected Officials as well if they want. It's a trade mark. They all dress up in the proper flight gear. Semper Fi.
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Helicopter Marine Attack Squadron 169 which is now HMLA-169. They added Huey's to compliment the Cobra effectiveness. When I served we just had Snakes.

[jb]

Got to agree with you there Marine4life, especially the requirements for Naval Aviators which of course includes Marine Aviators which is a fact that some people tend to overlook sometimes. I remember back when Clinton flew in to assess a flood here in the state all decked out in his flight jacket as he exited the Marine Huey. News media was all over it commenting on his display of courage. Even my late Mother almost puked at that one.

BTW, thanks to the admin and for mods getting this site under control. Differing viewpoints are both interesting and desirable but completely irrational rants add nothing and just take up space.

jb

[Marine4life]

I hear ya, all of my manuals were NAVAIR and my schools were Navy, NAS Millington Tennesee was my first. Where did this fool go from a war hero on a swiftboat to a war hero on a carrier? What an idiot. I know when he is telling a lie because his lips move. Semper Fi.
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Helicopter Marine Attack Squadron 169 which is now HMLA-169. They added Huey's to compliment the Cobra effectiveness. When I served we just had Snakes.

[garb1015]

In the late sixties my uncle (20 yrs Navy, 22 yrs civil service) was on the Bon Homme Richard. When the Bonnie Dick was in port in Long Beach I went down to see him. He got a pass from his CO and gave me a tour from one end to the other. He took me just about every place he could except Marine Country, the bridge and a few other places that were off limits.
As a result of this tour, I probably have more experience on an aircraft carrier than John Kerry.

[mark gray]

Why would anyone believe anything johnkerry says. First he is an admitted war criminal, who escaped prosecution becuase of his political connection to the kennedys, and leftist democrats whose first agenda is to try to undermine the United States.

His defense however is the same defense all the Nazi war criminals had used at Neuremburg after the Second World War, Higher authority is responsibility. This is nonsense.

Second how do we know for sure, he is a war criminal, because he told us so ? That cant be depended on either. Today he is running for president of the greatest country in the world and all of a sudden he is a war hero.

How can he be an admitted war criminal and a war hero at the same time. Because he says he is, this goes along with , ' I voted for it before I voted against it' this would make perfect sense to the left but to the rest of us it sounds like a double standard.

This runs along the same line of his campaign, they want to tax the rich, however he and his Rich Wife would of course be exempt from punitive taxes.

Kerry wouldn't know the truth if it bit him in the butt.

Kerry can not be trusted with the security of the United States, especially when the first thing he would do would be to put the Armed Forces of the United States under the auspices of the United Nations. This would not be in the best interest of the United States and would violate his oath of office to protect and defend the United States.
Mark

[Navymomx2]

BrianC,

Thank You for your kind words. Years ago when Desert Storm was taking place, I tried to join the Navy, I wanted to do my part, but unfortunately I was told to stay home and raise my kids. At the time it was upsetting but I knew there had to be a reason for this and of course there was. I was to raise Sailor's, well so far 2, one still to go, not sure what he is going to do. Since I couldn't serve our country in far away lands, I knew I could take on the home front by taking care of those who are from far away states. I just had a few simple rules, first day, you are company, after that you are family. If you have laundry to do, bring it, by the time you leave you will have fresh clean clothes and don't do burn down the house, LOL. I'll tell ya, I learned how to pack a pretty mean seabag, LOL.

War Dog,

I am so thankful for people like you. With my son being stationed in Japan I worried about the holiday's especially, but his command is great and they have wonderful holiday gatherings, it sure put's a mothers worries at ease. My daughter was fortunate as, at the time she had a fiance (now hubby) and his family is fairly close to where they live so the kids went there for the holidays.

There are some wonderful Navymom groups on the internet now a days, at any time if a sailor is heading home, whether on leave or cycling out and they are driving, there probably is a Navymom along the way that they could stay with if they wanted.

JN173,

Nice list, you know, for a man who appartently was very well educated, came into this world with a silver spoon in his mouth, he is pretty damned stupid. I pray Kerry's arragonce and expertise is his downfall.

Marine4life,

I'm glad you mentioned about the media and Democrats and thier kiddie rides. They are a real fine bunch to speak on the topic. Back when the Lincoln came home, they seemed to have no problem when the Gov. of WA. and other Congressmembers went for a joy ride on another ship coming home. At least the President knew to depart the Lincoln so as to not delay the families from their loved ones. The Democrats on the other ship rode it all the way in and the families had to wait until they departed from the ship. No one was also asking them to pay for their excursion. Talk about double standard.

I love your analogy, war hero from swiftboat to carrier. Arrogance has something to do with that I believe.

Speaking of arrogance, I have to tell you all a little story. My son has been in since 2000, he was on the Lincoln for about 2 1/2 years and done 2 West Pacs to the Gulf. Like I mentioned earlier, he is stationed in Japan now. Well he has earned many ribbons and medals. Last year they had a Retirement and of course he had to be all dressed up formally, medals ribbons, the works as you well know. While at the retirement I think it was a Chief or someone higher came up to him and said "Son, you know you can't just go buy what ever pins, medals and ribbons you want". My son snapped back, "Sir, I earned everyone of these". He was questioned because of his SW and a couple of other things. The guy goes on and on a bit more, as it turned out this guy had never been on a carrier and he didn't have much for ribbons and medals. Of course my son being a smart a$$ but knowing his limits made some comment back to the guy that shut him up. I can see why though the guy made the comment, my son I think had 11 or 13 ribbons at the time, some with stars added, they guy was lucky to have had half that and no SW.

I just love my son's comment though, "Sir I earned everyone of these" and that he did. I will say, yes, I think John Kerry earned some of his, but I don't believe all were earned with the same honesty and hard work.

garb1015,

Agreed, I think between you and I we probably have more Carrier experience or knowledge than Kerry. I was lucky when we toured, the most memorable parts were, getting to go into the bridge and walking the flight deck.

Mark,

I have asked myself the same ?, how can you be an admitted war criminal and also be a war hero? Answer: You can't unless you have money, arrogance, political connections and are self serving, oh yeah and of course if you carry the Kerry name.