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[MissPatriot]

http://www.timesdaily.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041016/APA/410160566

[vet_supporter]

Outrageous isn't it. Yet, you don't hear these people complaining about the newly discovered mass graves of women, children and infants. One woman's remains were found holding an infant with the infant shot in the head and the woman shot in the face.

My God !, what is wrong with these people ?

VS

[fr11]

This is exactly the same kind of tactics that the Viet Cong used to demoralize our troops! These lunatics wonder why we call them anti-American?!?! I have lots of other words that I'd like to call them too...

[bhlewis]

Here are the list of pictures.
http://www.forusa.org/iraqphoto/index.htm

Its not quite that bad. These are some of the most gullible morons ever though.

[Hammer2]

From the pictures, this looks like something that was organized through Unitarian and Quaker churches.
Most of them look sincere enough, a lot looked like like aging 60's types that never grew out of their naive pacifist beliefs.

Basicly, your typical useful idiot types!

Not like the hard core leftists that fill their minds with this simplistic Barbara Streisand.
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[CandiM]

Not quite that bad???--I kinda think that "We oppose our government's policies that oppress you" is bad enough--

Do they also "oppose our government's policies" which allow them the right to say such things?--Rights which the people they're sending these pictures to have never had?--

I personally find nothing "useful" about these idiots--C

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[JimRobson]

I can't believe this.

This stuff is well organized. Who is behind it? Pacifism is one thing, and I can in some way understand it, but this is subversion.

I guess growing up in WWII taught me some values, but I can't understand civilians undermining our unity. I can't understand soldiers refusing to perform their duties.

I'm sick to my stomach.

Addendum: I just read the article. I still can't believe it.

Not quite that bad??? Like Zell Miller said. We are there to liberate, not oppress. 50,000,000 people liberated. People voting in nations that never had a vote in recorded history, and we are oppressors. Self determination instead of mass graves, torture rooms, rape rooms, women shot in the stadium for not wearing their burkas. And we are the oppressors?

Funniest kind of oppressors I ever heard of. Rebuilding infrastructure, schools, hospitals, training staff, arming and training an indiginous police force and army. People are volunteering in droves to fill the ranks of these forces. Putting their lives on the line just to stand in queue at the recruiting office.

By the way, the errant prison guards are coming to justice. I've worked in a jail. I know that you get bad apples who abuse prisoners and then you lock up the abusers and "hope" their PC keeps them isolated from those they abused.

What kind of perversion is it to call this oppression. How can it be that people don't understand that?
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[Truegrit]

This is pathetic. I feel sad for Berg's son, but I cannot believe his idiocy in claiming that the U.S. is somehow responsible for his son's beheading by Islamic extremists.

This is the defeatist anti-American mindset that has been grafted onto the Democratic party by the likes of Kerry and Kennedy.

We must fight this nonsense in every way possible.
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[Mary Ann Parker]

Questions:
* To whom are these pic/comments actually going to
(troops?Iraqi Officials?Exactly how are they transmitted and where received?


* Since we are AT OFFICIAL WAR, what is our recourse
to protect the troops and their morale from
ORGANIZED subversion??
(I understand that the internet limits monitoring etc.)

* How can WE as a group organize a CONCERTED EFFORT
to contact them with love and support
that we can be SURE THEY RECEIVE

COMMENTS:
I cannot overstate my empathy and concern for family
and friends of those who are IN harms way,
and particularly those who have lost loved ones already.
Many of us have.

HOWEVER,
* This kind of activity DOES NOT SHORTEN THE CONFLICT.
* This activity accomplishes EXACTLY what JOHN KERRY DID.
* FOR THE BERGS IN PARTICULAR
-Please remember that the father was anti-war and
spoke about about a SISTER-IN-LAW that is IRAQI.
I believe that there is some intrinsic bias there.
Nothing and no one deserves what happened to him,
I am simply saying there was/is and agenda here that
was not military.

-Mr. Berg was a civilian that had mystery surrounding
his presence and
had verification of his DISOBEDIENCE of
to rules for his personal safety.
* I do not believe we can persuade these people
that they are endangering and prolonging
the exposure of our people,

We CAN and MUST mount a record setting
SUPPORT AND ENCOURAGEMENT FOR OUR PRECIOUS PEOPLE.

I pledge to be a banana in whatever bunch we come up with!!!

Let's MAKE it a better day.
Mary Ann Parker

[buffman]

Does anyone have pictures of the atrocities Saddam committed to send back to these idiots? It would be nice if their emails were full of what we liberated the Iraqis from.
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[BenJaxBchFL]

Did they forward the pictures of the mass graves discovered this week? You know the ones of mothers still holding their babies while both were shot in the head?
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[buffman]

This from Chrenkoff's blogspot:

Are we feeling sorry yet?
Getting readers of the leftie British "Guardian" email American voters in the most marginal county of the most marginal state is not the only nuisance political campaign going on at the moment. Hot on the heels of the email campaign to persuade the poor people of Clark County, Ohio, to "do it for the rest of the world" and vote for Kerry, comes this initiative to show the unsuspecting Iraqis that not all Americans are crazed warmongers who invade foreign countries and torture prisoners:

"More than 2,000 people opposing the war in Iraq, including the father of an American beheaded by terrorists, are sending Iraqis personal photos with protest messages to show 'what Americans are really like.'

"The pictures, from all around the country, are meant to be a counterpoint to the infamous images of Americans abusing Iraqi prisoners. Each photo shows at least one sign, usually handmade. Some specifically criticize U.S. actions in the war while others simply extend sympathy to Iraqi civilians.

" 'With deep shame, we apologize for the suffering our country has brought to the people of Iraq,' says a banner in a photo showing 11 people in Vancouver, Wash. Three elderly people in Minneapolis declare, 'All our children long for a new day.'

"Michael Berg, whose son Nicholas was executed last spring by an al-Qaida-affiliated group, holds a sign in his photo that says, 'I am sorry and ashamed for the tremendous loss my government has caused the Iraqi people.'

" 'I truly feel that what the United States government has done to the once-sovereign nation of Iraq is atrocious and shameful,' he said in a phone interview. Berg, whose opposition to the war predates his son's execution, will be in Washington on Wednesday when the project is formally unveiled by the Fellowship of Reconciliation.

"The peace group, which organized the project, said it wants Iraqis to know that most Americans were shocked by the photos of U.S. soldiers abusing Iraqis prisoners and many regret a war being waged in their name"...

" 'We thought it would be great if we could speak as ordinary Americans to ordinary Iraqis,' said [the campaign organiser Hossein] Alizadeh. 'Since the United States went in there, the Iraqis have seen nothing but violence, so they have a very negative opinion of Americans. We hope that after they see these photographs, they will pause for a second and think, "At least we have a few friends, there are people who care about what's happening".'"
That should cheer up Saddam, who's feeling a bit down after his recent hernia operation. In case the peaceniks run out of ideas for more signs to share with the people of Iraq, here's some more ideas:

"Liberation - never again!"

"Democracy for the rich, not just for all"

"We support your sovereign right to be killed by your own government"

"Stop outsourcing! Only Iraqi torturers for Abu Ghraib"

"We're deeply sorry for bringing you the opportunity to elect your own government"

"Freedom is overrated"

"You all look much better in mass graves, anyway"

And one especially for the Kurds: "Smile, it's only gas"
In moments like this, I always cast my mind back a few years ago, when the streets were teeming with marches for human rights in Iraq, and peace activists were busy organising vigils, sit-ins and letter-writing campaigns against Saddam's oppression.

Then I wake up
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[BenJaxBchFL]

I really despise this kind of ignorance so I sent about a dozen emails just now to the email addresses listed above.

I mean where is the logic in, " I'm for peace even while thousands of innocent people are systematically murdered ".

You have to intervene you dumb***es. That's what a courageous people do. They stop it.
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[Scott]

Here's the link to Chrenkoff's post:

http://chrenkoff.blogspot.com/2004/10/are-we-feeling-sorry-yet.html
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