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ccirdes Seaman Recruit
Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Posts: 4 Location: ny
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Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 6:08 pm Post subject: VIET NAM VETS...NO LONGER SILENT......PLEASE READ |
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Revenge Is a Dish Best Served Cold
Over 30 years ago they put away their medals and their uniforms. They tried bury their anger and bitterness and moved on with their lives -- and they waited.
Revisionists are trying to change history, claiming the returning Viet Nam veterans didn't suffer all that much when they returned home. All that talk of being labeled animals has been exaggerated over the years. But the veterans know better. They were there.
On the radio last week, one man related that he had unpacked the uniform that he wore home from Viet Nam all those years ago. It had not seen the light of day for over 30 years. He showed it to his children and grandchildren and, for the first time, spoke of the day that he returned home from war and was spat on, cursed at, and literally had to run a gauntlet of protesters who threw human waste and rotten fruit on him and his fellow vets. With the words "baby killers" ringing in his ears he was warned by laughing policemen not to retaliate or he would be arrested. So he ran. The able-bodied helped the wounded as they do on any battlefield because those on crutches or in wheelchairs were not spared the profanity, abuse, and bags full of feces that were thrown at them by the raging anti-war protesters.
This now middle-aged vet went on to tell his family that he had hid in the bathroom at the airport for over two hours, bewildered and afraid. He wondered if he had landed in some foreign land where Americans were hated. Finally, he cleaned up the uniform he was still proud to wear as best he could and made his way to his plane, where he suffered more insults from the passengers. When he got home, he packed up his medals and his dirty uniform, just as it was, and he knew that one day, he would take it out again and he would have his say. THAT DAY HAS NOW COME.
One POW stated that he had never put a face to the name until he heard the words "Genghis Khan" pronounced only as John Kerry does and suffered his first flashback to the time he was being tormented by Kerry's words in a North Vietnamese prison camp.
They buried their anger and the bitterness --and they waited. Most of them didn't know who or what would be the signal to make their move, but they knew they would recognize it when it happened.
On July 29, 2004, it happened. John Forbes Kerry came to the podium at the Democratic Convention and uttered three words that made many Viet Nam vets skin crawl: "Reporting for Duty!" At last the time had come for these long-suffering veterans.
The past was staring back at these wrongly disgraced vets from their television sets. The face it bore was that of John Kerry, the man who had shredded their honor without a thought and climbed over the bodies of their fallen friends to launch a political career. Kerry had stripped them of their dignity the day he sat before Congress in his fatigues and portrayed them as "baby killers" and "murderers". Kerry did the unspeakable. He had publicly turned on his fellow vets while they were still in harm's way and American prisoners were still in the hands of the enemy. Kerry accused them all of being out-of-control animals, killing, raping, and pillaging Viet Nam at will. The anti-war movement -- the protesters had their hero and he was a Viet Nam War veteran, an officer, a medal winner, a wounded warrior: John Forbes Kerry.
Many Viet Nam vets buried the memories of their less-than-welcome homecoming, and John Kerry moved off the national scene. The feelings of betrayal had faded, but they were never resolved. The unprecedented injustice inflicted on the Viet Nam vets has always lain just under the surface, waiting for a chance to be uncovered. The war had stolen their youth and innocence and John Kerry stole their dignity and rightful place of honor in history.
Like an unlanced boil, the anger festered but there was nothing that could ease the pain. These vets didn't ask for "forgiveness" because they had done nothing wrong in serving their country. They never asked to be treated as heroes, just good soldiers. All they have ever wanted was the respect due all the men and women who have worn the uniform of this country, something still denied them. Being allowed to march in a few parades wasn't enough. A long over-due memorial was not enough. The Viet Nam Veterans moveable wall only brought back the suffering as they searched for the names of their fallen friends whose memory had been defiled and disgraced by people who considered them rampaging killers instead of men who died with honor for their country.
Now before them stands this man who would be president -- this man who holds his service in Viet Nam up as a badge of honor now that it suits his purposes. This man Kerry brags about his medals and his tiny wounds and demands the respect they were denied, yet he offers no apologies for what he did to them. "I will be a great leader!" Kerry proclaims, because of his brief and self-proclaimed valiant service while wearing a uniform -- the very same uniform that they wore and were spat upon because of it.
All across America, soiled uniforms and memories of being shamed and humiliated have resurfaced and Vietnam vets demand their rightful place in history. John Kerry seems bewildered by the reaction of his "fellow vets." He has become defensive and angry because now his service and honor are being questioned. Kerry seems oblivious to the pain he caused three decades ago when he stole all honor and dignity rom those same "fellow vets" for personal gain. Now he wants to use them again, for the same reason.
All across America, Viet Nam vets are smiling. At last, perhaps they can bury their demons. These angry vets are demanding that this man who sentenced them to being shunned as criminals, tell the world that he was wrong and that he is sorry for what he did to them. Kerry must admit that he lied about them.
For many, it would still not be enough satisfaction and hopefully peace will come when Viet Nam vets see and hear John F. Kerry give his concession speech the night of November 2, 2004 with the knowledge that it was their votes that helped defeat him. There are approximately 2.5 million Viet Nam veterans in America and they have not forgotten.
Kerry denied them their rightful place as heroes and they will deny him his dream of the presidency. Angry Viet Nam veterans, silent for so long, will finally have their say. Payment in full will be delivered to John Kerry on November 2, 2004. Revenge is indeed a dish best served cold.
by Barbara Stock
August 31, 2004
http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/stock/040831
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QUESTION: WILL JOHN KERRY TREAT OUR SERVICE PERSONNEL
- (YOUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS, YOUR MOTHERS AND FATHERS, YOUR SONS
AND DAUGHTERS, and FRIENDS)-
NOW FIGHTING THE TERRORIST THE SAME WAY HE TREATED THE VIET NAM VETS???
PROBABLE.
(Author unknown)
(Please pass this on to all your emails, thank you).
"http://ccirdes.9cy.com"
(Edited to add author information - EJ) _________________ CCIRDES - a Vet and pround of it.
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rhv5862 PO2
Joined: 21 Aug 2004 Posts: 379 Location: Massachusetts
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Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 1:38 am Post subject: Vietnam Vets |
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ccirdes, thank you for this post. Had a difficult time reading but made it through. Thanks again
RHV |
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Rurik PO3
Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 251 Location: Daschle-cleansed Free South Dakota
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Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 4:47 am Post subject: |
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THANK you!
A lit candle, three full prostrations, and a dozen blessings for you.
I never went into the closet, never was silent, never apologized.
Now - my time - 0ur time- has come. _________________ Hating John Kerry continuously since 1971.
Essayons!
Fight Build and Destroy |
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84rules Ensign
Joined: 26 Jul 2004 Posts: 53
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Truegrit Lieutenant
Joined: 20 Aug 2004 Posts: 246 Location: Massachusetts
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Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 7:05 pm Post subject: Time for the Viet Vets to Have Their Say |
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The time for the Vietnam Veterans to speak out has, thankfully, arrived -- after 35 years and more. It is time to counter the propagandistic lies of the radical Left of the 60's and 70's and let Americans know the truth about our military and what happened in Vietnam.
The SBVT campaign has, in my opinion, been the big dam buster here, opening the floodgates of commentary.
We will put the soft Left and the hard Left on the run! And God help them if they try to throw bladders of pig's blood at returning troops coming home from the middle East! _________________ Ted Harwood, Ph.D.
Enlisted, U.S. Army ('57-'60) |
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LewWaters Admin
Joined: 18 May 2004 Posts: 4042 Location: Washington State
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ccirdes Seaman Recruit
Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Posts: 4 Location: ny
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Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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Any one who wants to duplicate and post this message, CAN DO SO, if they wish.
I am sure the origianl author will not object.
_________________ CCIRDES - a Vet and pround of it.
Many remarks and observations on my site.
Your comments weclome.
"http://ccirdes.9cy.com"
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MrJapan PO1
Joined: 27 Sep 2004 Posts: 465 Location: Chiba, Japan
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Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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This post is for the honor of my father... A SEAL in nam between '63 and '67 ('or '68, not sure when he got out)...
He never told me about what he encountered when he came back stateside... All he told me was about the job he took on... and what he had to do to prove himself. He told me that he had to prove to the Sheriff ( he was a 'new' Deputy then) that he had what it takes to be a rough person who could take care of himslef, at that time. He weight roughly 150 LBS at 5'11".
The Sheriff was HARD CORE JUSTICE ( ) and the 'Hells Angels' had just moved into town, into this West Texas VERY small town...
He never told me about being spit upon... (I wish he told me everything)..
But I remember him telling me that the Sheriff wanted him to prove himself worthy of being a Deputy.
There are very FEW stories he told me, but this one stays in my mind... I thought it was funny at the time... buit, in this day and age.. very UN-PC...
The Sheriff challenged him to prove his worthyness... so my dad went around asking who the toughest, baddest MOFO was.. ( think this might have been right before I was born, not sure though... it should have been between 1968 and 1971)...
He got a name and a place he thought this BAD MOFO might be... walked into the bar and asked, by name, where this MOFO was...
He walked up to the guy (long haired hell raising Hells Angel hippie) and tapped him on the shoulder....
We are talking about a pip-squeek ex-Navy SEAL (at about 140 LBS or so) compaired to a 300 LBS biker...... (I laugh when I think about it!)..
And he told me he took out his flashlight (the old 5 or 6 D cell aluminums) and conked the guy before he could turn around.... then drug him out to the patrol car and shoved him in the back seat...... took him to the station and booked him... on what, he never told me... He said the Sheriff was in the Sally Port (transfer place between the care and the booking area) waiting to see if it were true..(BTW, he told me that he drug the gut by his hair from his bar stool to the car.. and no other person in the bar saw wxactly what had taken place, so they thought my dad had kicked his a**.. which was the effect he had wanted...)
Anyway, the Sheriff liked what he saw... and the 'Hells Angels moved outa there.. and the crime rate went down....
Fiction? Well, That is the story I heard from my dad... That was also my home town, and the crime rate is fairly low....
He did tell me that he also busted Larry Gatlin a coupla times in the early '70s...
Anyway.... true story? Well, I believe it... Came from my dad... (BTW, I am hoping you see this and at least PM me)...
Point being... maybe we don't always here the whole story... (he never told me about the negative things that happaned when they came back..).. Was he hiding it.. or avaoiding it?
I said in another post.. I have learned more about the Nam war in the last 3 months than I have ever heard about, thanks to sKerry...
BTW, THANK YOU Swifts for bringing TRUE history to those of us (the majority) who didn't know! _________________ USAF
31 TFW (307th/309th)
Homestead AFB (until Andrew took care of it, 1992)
Desert Shield/Desert Storm
Texas Army NG 13E FDC
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MrJapan PO1
Joined: 27 Sep 2004 Posts: 465 Location: Chiba, Japan
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Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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damn... my spelling is awful... _________________ USAF
31 TFW (307th/309th)
Homestead AFB (until Andrew took care of it, 1992)
Desert Shield/Desert Storm
Texas Army NG 13E FDC
BTRY B 3-133 Arty
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God and Country PO3
Joined: 28 Aug 2004 Posts: 274 Location: God's country
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Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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Very, very powerful medicine.
_________________ Conservative and proud |
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hanna Rear Admiral
Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 701
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Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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If Barbara Stock could put her story in a TV ad, that would finish it. That would absolutely be THE END. |
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BuffaloJack Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy
Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 1637 Location: Buffalo, New York
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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 1:21 am Post subject: |
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I literally boils my blood thinking our boys in Iraq are seeing some of the same anti-war rhetoric that we did when we came home from Viet Nam. All this anti-war crap is John Kerry's Legacy. He was proud of it then and I can only believe he is probably proud of it now.
As for being CinC; Kerry's not going to win. Our efforts are seeing to that.
We can't relax.
Only a few more weeks.
Keep up the good work. |
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rhv5862 PO2
Joined: 21 Aug 2004 Posts: 379 Location: Massachusetts
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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 1:21 am Post subject: Vietnam Vets no Longer Silent |
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You come home knowing you did what was honorable. You walk past the protesters knowing they have no clue what went on over there but it still hurts. Put the memories deep in the back of your mind and move on. The true heros chose to just live with their memories no matter what they were. Kerry took the words Duty,Honor,Country and in one speech tried to destroy them but could not. Now its the Vets he tried so hard to destroy to speak the truth about him and hopefully it will be his down fall.
RHV |
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minnie presley Commander
Joined: 13 Jul 2004 Posts: 307
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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 1:50 am Post subject: message |
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WOW what a powerful message .it was hard to read , nad this slimball wants to be CinC, is there anyway we can get this to the media and newspapers,maybe hand it out at some colleges and universities |
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ccirdes Seaman Recruit
Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Posts: 4 Location: ny
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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 4:46 pm Post subject: Want to see more? |
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If you think my post of the long, but very specific article is useful.
Then you should see my resigantion from the VFW, posted on my web site. Also based in part on their support of Kerry.
"http://ccirdes.9cy.com" _________________ CCIRDES - a Vet and pround of it.
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