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Adrian Spidle · Seaman Recruit Joined: 22 Sep 2004 Posts: 34

Yesterday I had a brief discussion with an older lawyer neighbor. He's passionately for Kerry.

He said he can't stand the "extreme Right Wingers" ranting about their "warlike attempts to build an American Empire and remake the Middle East in their own image."

I asked him to name a single extreme Right Winger and what "empire" are you talking about? And he responded gruffly "All of them are Extreme Right Wingers and the empire is the Middle East." He went on "If you can't see that Bush's people are dangerous extreme Right Wingers then I don't want to discuss it with you."

I responded "Trying to bring Democracy to the Middle East doesn't seem so bad to me." and he responded "You're not open minded, you're brain washed. I don't want to discuss this with you anymore."

WOW. These Kerry supporters have really drunk the Kool Aid. They can't even talk with people who don't agree with them.

http://pep.typepad.com/public_enquiry_project/2004/10/the_dems_are_go_2.html

shadowy · Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 4:00 pm Post subject:

I always expect people who are confident that they know what's true to be eager to discuss it with others, as often as they are able. If you're neighbor is so certain he knows the truth, it's not very neighborly of him to refuse to try to enlighten your poor benighted soul. So maybe he's just not at all sure he can defend his cliche riddled position.

jataylor11 · Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 4:41 pm Post subject:

Obviously this neighbor thinks women should not have the vote, liberty or freedom.

Ask this neighbor if he believes that it is okay to own slaves in 2004?

FF1047 · Lieutenant Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 222

I can't watch the news and change the channel when political ads come on to avoid making remarks about politics at my house. Any attempt to discuss any subject starts with "Bush hates ... (fill in the blank)" ... Even my standard question, "What did he say that makes you believe that ?" gets nothing but a glare. I keep holding out hope that we can actually have a real discussion about "any" political subject without resorting to the irrational arguments of Kerry's DNC talking points. Can't wait til Nov 3, when, as expected Kerry gets beat then I'll have to avoid political discussioins for another 4 years.
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Aristotle The Hun · PO1 Joined: 18 Aug 2004 Posts: 488 Location: Naples FL

shadowy · Last edited by shadowy on Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:12 pm; edited 1 time in total

JCJR · Lt.Jg. Joined: 24 Aug 2004 Posts: 114

Sure its a typo, but please remember to vote NOV 2, not NOV 3!

However, it is perfectly OK to urge all yer Democrat friends to vote NOV 3! (GRIN)

azTrish · Lt.Jg. Joined: 12 Sep 2004 Posts: 133 Location: Arizona

Guest · Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 8:31 pm Post subject:

Somewhere the dems have lost the sense of democracy that our country was built upon. To agree to diagree respectfully. Their new mantra is, say as we say, do as we do, and ask no questions. Mad

Spiess · Lieutenant Joined: 30 Jul 2004 Posts: 246

shadowy · Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:15 pm Post subject:

Ok, ya got me, I dropped keyboarding before we got to numbers.
note to self: proofread posts

jataylor11 · Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:29 pm Post subject: Re: try being married to one ...

[quote="Aristotle The Hun"]

homesteader · PO3 Joined: 17 Sep 2004 Posts: 294 Location: wisconsin

My favorite retort to claims that we are building an empire and it is all about oil is to point out that just a few years ago we had over half a million troops sitting on top of the largest oil fields in the world. Had we wanted an oil empire we could have just taken it and there is not much anyone could have done about it. We have now withdrawn because there is no longer any reason (Saddam) for us to be there. In Iraq we could withdraw from the cities, build a fence around the oil fields and say its ours and there is nothing anyone could do about it. But we will not of course. Down deep I know the dems know that too.

LimaCharlie · PO2 Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Posts: 386 Location: Oregon

I came out of Wal-Mart the other day to see a thirty something Hispanic couple looking at my “Kerry Lied - While Good Men Died” window stickers and talking animatedly. As I walked up to my car and clicked the remote to unlock it, the man asked me angrily, “What did he lie about?” I just stared at him for a minute. He calmed down and said, “Really, I want to know. What did he lie about”? I answered, “He lied about his service and medals in Viet Nam. He lied to Congress about what Viet Nam Veterans did while they were in Viet Nam. I was an advisor in Viet Nam while he was lying to Congress about what I was doing there. He went to Paris and met with the Communist North Vietnamese and Viet Cong and supported their side. His picture hangs in the Communist museum in Hoi Chi Minh City in Viet Nam today crediting him with helping them win. I attribute many of the names on the Viet Nam Wall to John Kerry and Jane Fonda. He supported the Communists in Nicaragua. He is lying about his anti-military record in the Senate and he is lying about what is going on in Iraq today. Other than that, he is not a bad guy”. The couple looked at each other for a minute and then the man shrugged and said, “Oh, OK”. They got in their car and drove off.

I don’t know if I converted them. The exchange went much differently than I had anticipated. I was surprised when they didn’t interrupt or bring up the usual Kerry talking points, so I kept talking.
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Spiess · Lieutenant Joined: 30 Jul 2004 Posts: 246