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twicearound · PO2 Joined: 02 Sep 2004 Posts: 362 Location: San Antonio

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/10/18/95423.shtml

leeinwv · PO3 Joined: 22 Jul 2004 Posts: 268

We have to do all we can to get the petition signed by everyone

SooZQ · Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 2:46 pm Post subject:

Rdtf · CNO Joined: 13 May 2004 Posts: 2209 Location: BUSHville

When Kerry went to Paris in the summer of 1970, he ‘claimed’ it was for his first honeymoon with heiress #1.
He met with assorted communists to engage in extensive discussions about plans, procedures and how to get the U.S. to surrender to Vietnam…WHILE HE WAS CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATED AS A NAVAL RESERVE OFFICER. Kerry’s covert lobbying were never reported to the Navy.

Has Kerry ever admitted to doing this?

Tom Poole · Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:27 pm Post subject:

I've grown tired of all the old names, sKerry, Lurch, Lapdog, traitor, etc. Metcalf's article has now refreshed us with a new name: Humpty f'n Dumpty! Hurray. p.s. You may remove the "f'n" if you wish, because I added that.
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Spiess · Lieutenant Joined: 30 Jul 2004 Posts: 246

What Petition ? damn I am beind the ball on this one! I have been E-mailing this for a while now I even E-mail Ann Coulter. The trouble I have is that CBS pushed the Bush Story, has anyone writen them and told em em take a fair nd balanced approach. If they are willing to do a hatchet job on Bush why wont they cover this...... I know I know, all Im saying is how else can we get a big splash out of this.

JP · Seaman Recruit Joined: 19 Oct 2004 Posts: 7

Senator Kerry's website for President (http://www.johnkerry.com/about/john_kerry/service_timeline.html) offers a detailed timeline of his military career along with supporting documents from his service record. His timeline ends on April 29, 1970, with the notation, "Kerry listed as Registrant who has completed service."

A military person's discharge from the service is recorded by a DD-214 Form, a purely administrative document. Kerry's website shows two DD-214's: One when he was discharged from 'Officer Candidate' status because he had been commissioned; the date of this discharge is 15 Dec 66. The second DD-214 is a discharge from active duty and transfer to the Naval Reserve; the date of this discharge is 3 Jan 1970. This second DD-214 shows Kerry's "Terminal Date of Reserve Obligation" was 17 Feb 1972 (about 6 years after his commissioning). One would therefore expect to find on Kerry's website a third and last DD-214, dated on or about 17 Feb 72, documenting final separation from Naval service. Its not there. Instead there is a SECNAV cover letter dated 18 Feb 1978 which forwards to Kerry an "Honorable Discharge Certificate" (six years after the end of his obligated service). The cover letter mentions an examination of Kerry records by a "board of officers." The Kerry website does not provide a copy of the Honorable Discharge Certificate. To have not received a DD 214 in 1972 when his service ended is a very unusual circumstance. So irregular, in fact, that the more likely scenario is that he did receive another DD 214 in 1972. This suggests the possibility that the SECNAV letter was a result of Kerry's petitioning the Navy to change the character or date of an earlier DD 214 discharge. Compounding the unreality of this situation are the additional observations that the last date given on his timeline (29 Apr 1970) doesn't bring him up to the end of his contractual obligation; and nor does his timeline end by using the only correct and accurate word for such matters, "Discharged."

Senator Kerry, by not disclosing all the documents relating to the termination of his military service, has prima facie chosen to withhold information that he doesn't want the public to know. This is not a subjective, political opinion. Its just one of those stubborn things to ignore, a fact.

air_vet · PO2 Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 374

SAFVet · Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 4:25 am Post subject:

I can confirm air_vet's comments. I served on active duty for 14 years, after which I resigned my Regular USAF commission for personal reasons. Upon discharge, I received a Reserve commission along with a DD-214. When I later retired from the AF Reserve, I received a certificate and orders transferring me to the Retired Reserve until I reached age 60, whence I would be enrolled as an AF Retiree. So, I was only issued one DD-214.

Regards,

SAFVet

Stevie · Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 5:36 am Post subject:

PowerPro · Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 5:54 am Post subject: Thoroughly confused

Does anyone know when Thomas Lipscomb is going to give the followup report regarding the Kerry Discharge mystery?

Please let me know!
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Roon · PO2 Joined: 12 Sep 2004 Posts: 393 Location: Lilburn, GA

Geano · Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 2:09 pm Post subject:

Kerry Discharge/MCc/Peterson/et.al??
Kerry Finances Thread

Ok, Vietnam Normalization....Douglas Peterson is 1st US Ambassador (POW) McCain POW (and who knows where he ties)/Kerry potential discharge problem, at least questions about VVAW, etc,

Now, Wouldn't it be helpful if Clinton interests, and others had a decorated hero war hero to help with their cause????

Can we make a tie in with possible discharge update motivation and POW/MIA and then back to Kerry'68-72 years and the war?

(I can almost hear the conversation: "Kerry, you blew it, we had you set up, and you blew it with the VVAW things, etc. Now we gotta fix you....)
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Candidate had declared mice "only a nuisance".
States they "moved too Swiftly"....

RMalloy · PO3 Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 280

It probably goes back further, Kerry has downplayed his relationship
to Ted Kennedy in the 60's, going so far as to put out the "story"
kind of like the movie- Love Story - "Where do I begin".........

davman · Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 6:04 pm Post subject: Petition

I have posted this before, so please excuse the repetition. I am posting again because it is important and relevent. There is an online petition at dirtykerry.com to demand that Kerry sign Standard Form 180, authorizing the release of his military records. i would like to encourage all to log on and sign. The administrator is trying to get another site that has run the same petition to combine the signatures. I guess we know another reason he won't do it. He is hoping this won't gain much attention until after the election. let's step this up and disappoint him!