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coolhand · PO3 Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 255 Location: MA/RI

This is an intersting piece from the "Boston Glob" on Bush's campaign stops and strategy. I cant believe tha Bush is taking it lightly, but the fact that he hasnt been in Ohio for three weeks until today's minor appearence is worrisome. Something is going on. I just cant figure out what it is. I think 1) he is resting for a super major blitz reminiscent of Gore's very susccesful sleepless charge in 2000 2) they are very confident in their internal numbers and ground organizations 3) they have an electoral strategy that people are miscalculating. I'm puzzled, but confident. In Rove I trust.

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Inatizzy · Former Member Joined: 28 Sep 2004 Posts: 439

Don't misunderestimate Bush. Wink

He may not be too hot in the debate catagory, but he's an AWESOME campaigner. He connects with people.

They've got a plan. I'm glad they're keeping it quiet. The Dems don't need to know what hit em'.

Kimmymac · Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:18 pm Post subject:

Is the writer at the Boston Glub worried Bush might lose? Like Dick Cheney said, "thank you for your concern."

Screw the Boston Glub Club, it is none of their bidness what Bush is doing/not doing. They just have a major case of "It's quiet....too quiet." like in the old Westerns.

On November 1st they will wake up to see us silhouetted on the tops of all the surrounding hills. On November 2nd they will hear our war whoops. On November 3rd we will ride out of their camps with their scalps swinging from our belts.

Lily · Lieutenant Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 244

Apparently the RNC internal polling shows the Bush campaign ahead in Ohio, which is why Bush has not been in the state as much recently. Bush will be campaigning with Arnold Schwarzenegger next week in Ohio. The RNC is bringing the big guns into Ohio in the last week of the campaign. Bush is within 1 point in blue states like Michigan and New Jersey something that most people would not have expected to happen,so they might not even need Ohio. I would trust Karl Rove on this one, the Bush campaign knows exactly what they are doing.

kmudd · Master Chief Petty Officer Joined: 16 Aug 2004 Posts: 825

msindependent · Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:28 pm Post subject:

well, i'll leave the speculation to the experts. i just know not to ever play poker with him.

coolhand · PO3 Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 255 Location: MA/RI

GiveMeFreedom · PO3 Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 279 Location: Wisconsin

Steve Z · Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 9:12 pm Post subject: Campaign Strategy

If I were running the Bush campaign, I would have lots of campaign stops in both Florida and Ohio, the two biggest states that Bush won in 2000 that are still in jeopardy this time.

http://realclearpolitics.com/bush_vs_kerry_sbys.html

According to this website, there are still 9 states considered to be tossups:
FL (27), PA(21), OH(20), MI(17), MN(10), WI(10), IA(7), NM(5), and NH(4).

The latest polls show Bush slightly ahead in FL, and very slightly behind in OH, but taking leads in MN, WI, and IA. One tracking poll (Detroit News) shows Bush even leading Michigan, for the first time in the campaign. NM and NH are still up for grabs, as well. Only PA seems out of reach for Bush right now.

Bush has 227 EV pretty much locked up, and needs 43 more from the 9 states above (worth 122 EV), whereas Kerry has 189 EV locked up, and needs 81 more. The easiest way to get 43 more EV would be FL and either OH or PA, but Bush could win the Presidency even if he lost OH by winning any two of MN, WI, and IA, or if he lost FL by winning all three. Bush could conceivably win the Presidency even if he lost FL AND OH by winning MI, MN, WI, and IA (44 EV total).

I'm not going to second-guess the President, but he might decide to check how polls are reading, then make a last-minute campaign stop in whatever state he deems necessary. Kerry, on the other hand, has much more former Gore territory to defend, and is "on the run".

Unless we live in those states, it's hard to tell what ads are playing in those states, what internal polling (or early voting) is telling the campaigns, and whether Bush might want to make some announcement from the White House. Bush also has an additional "secret weapon" in Laura, who can campaign separately from her husband, whereas Kerry might have trouble "trusting" Teresa not to open mouth and insert foot.

One thing for certain, this is no time to be complacent, or go campaigning in CA or NJ. Let Arnold come from CA to OH and chase out the girlie man!
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coolhand · PO3 Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 255 Location: MA/RI

P. Aaron · Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 9:33 pm Post subject:

Regarding Bush, and this "new tone" strategy he has employed. I want as much as anyone else for him to have "smacked down" the critics that have been maligning him these many years. But by not responding, the critics have become more emboldened by the lack of response from the Bush camp, and the further they go the more looney they get and sound.

I think this is a strategy in itself. But the campaigns also do their own polling, which they do not make public, and if Kerry has to spend time in Florida going after the Jewish vote, that tells us something right there.

It's tough to stay confident, but there is nothing barring severe injury, comatose state, death, not even dismemberment will keep me from voting for Bush.

I'm one of those "broken glass" Republicans.
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JannDallas · Seaman Joined: 26 Sep 2004 Posts: 166 Location: Dallas, TX

Just want you to know that if there is anything going on in the paper's they know about it. This includes voter fraud. I believe in fact they are probably filing law suits at this very moment in places, but they are not publicizing it.

I also think that after Florida last year they learned their lesson not to think that a state is going with him. Remember, he thought he had Florida and pulled out. I think this campaign learned the hard way and I just can't see them making the same mistake whether it is Florida or another swing state.

I use to work campaigns and still know a few people that I talk to about different things and is involved in the Bush campaign. Don't speak with them too much lately, but did talk to one about all the voter fraud mess that we are seeing and I was told not to worry about it. I don't want to bother them very much as these last few days are critical and I would rather them concentrate on what it takes to get Bush re-elected rather than my curiosity.

cipher · Vice Admiral Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 902

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Lily · Lieutenant Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 244

For those who are actually worried that Bush won't win Ohio I'd like to recommend this excellent blog. It's called Jay's Horserace Blog and I read it everyday.

http://jaycost.blogspot.com